SOA or BJ's 6" w/ revolvers?

[Poley]

so which is the way to go?
$700 plus for BJ's.
SOA $211 plus for RB's kit and then the front set up?
so what are the up and downs of each? and cost effectiveness?

[Desert Beast]

well just for reference i spent $1500 on my SOA and shackle reversal, but that included new high angle dshaft, revolvers front and rear, and x-over steering. its all the nickel and dime crap that adds up. brake lines, spring perches, new shocks, and the like. but i love the set up and get mad flex. my flex is only limited by my shocks (15" travel)

[rockjeep44]

http://msd.cj-8.com/trailfest/slides/DSC00122.JPG

SUA's will never be cool...unless you're Scotty ;)

[Robber80]

LOL yeaaaaaah buddy i'd got SOA cause 6inch spring won't flex that well at all compared to stock springs.

[The Gator]

SOA My 2 Cents

[robselina]

SOA no doubt. I don't like revolvers, at least for rock climbing. They make you too unstable. I went from Rusty's 6" kit to SOA and trust me, I should have done SOA first time around. Cost of it was under $500 for me, doing it all myself BTW.

[AMX factor]

I'm getting a BJ's 6" in next week. Sorry for the lack of knowledge but what the hell is a "revolver" I only know of the Smith & Wesson kind!

[Poley]

I was leaning more tward SOA, but wanted to see if their were any draw backs besides the steering issue.

[River Beast]

The only drawback to SOA is if the person that wants it doesnt have 'skills' or the tools to complete the project.. but thats what friends are for...

You must have a little patience with SOA as every job has the basics of SOA but with a little variety on time and frustration.

Both the 6" lift and SOA will get you where you want to be... but for what reason are you going there? that is the ultimate question to ask yourself...

more comfortable ride with SOA by maintaining your springs... more flex as well.. I have never seen( nor do I want to) a 4 or 6" spring in a negative arch from a flex :eek:

[River Beast]

Originally posted by AMX factor:
I'm getting a BJ's 6" in next week. Sorry for the lack of knowledge but what the hell is a "revolver" I only know of the Smith & Wesson kind!I know you have heard of them.. just not for FSJ's... these take the place of the FSJ front shackles ( and rear if you opt to by using my kit) for MASSIVE articulation... in the pic below... you can see the drivers shackle 75% open and the passenger shackle closed...

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/RiverBeast/RB_FLEX002.jpg

Here is a pic of Robber80 on a good Revolver/SOA flex...

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/Users/Robber80/jeepperrys1.JPG

[ May 06, 2004, 08:00 AM: Message edited by: River Beast ]

[Desert Beast]

Originally posted by robselina:
I don't like revolvers, at least for rock climbing. They make you too unstable. really? what rig were they on? an FSJ? with mine i coulldnt feel much more stable, but w/ all that said some people dont like them and some people do.

[robselina]

Originally posted by Desert Beast:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by robselina:
I don't like revolvers, at least for rock climbing. They make you too unstable. really? what rig were they on? an FSJ? with mine i coulldnt feel much more stable, but w/ all that said some people dont like them and some people do.</font>[/QUOTE]YJs and CJs granted, and wheelbase will certainly contribute. I've seen them unload on decents and climbs...

[uglyjeepling]

OK where do i get instruction to do the SOA with revolver shackles?? Your my friends.

[FSJ Thing]

Check the links in RiverBeasts sig, and he'll have an index on the lift side of his page linking to most of the operations he's done on his Wag, including the SOA. It's the most in depth and exlanitory SOA page for Wags I've found. However, if it doesn't give you a warm fuzzy and enough confidence, check the www.rebelrockrunners.org (http://www.rebelrockrunners.org) web page, 'cause they got some good pics of SOAs under "Andrews Shop" in the "pics" section.

[ May 07, 2004, 03:16 PM: Message edited by: J-truck Thing ]

[Desert Beast]

just get yourself some spring perches and weld them to the top of your axle, simple as that :D . and some other minor stuff. check out RB's site.

[Slim]

great pics RB of yrs and Robber's , but just to show a different set up , since u both run Revolvers, it is possible to flex good with just a SOA and no Revolvers

http://www.pretense.net/4x4/flexn.jpg

also im curious to ask ,,,,what Revolvers does every one run ? I remeber hearing rumour , the application to use , are ones made for rear of an XJ ? this correct?

[ May 07, 2004, 11:37 PM: Message edited by: Slim ]

[River Beast]

yeah... XJ rears.... thats what I have...

you do have GREAT flex without revolvers.... I noticed you have your spring clips removed visible on the separation of the main and secondary leaf in the pic on the driver side... that helps out alot... I hope they dont scissor on you... just watch them for you safety...

I have yet to fully flex my rig out... time will only tell...

[Slim]

yes i havent trail tested it yet,,,,doin that next weekend with a couple of other local FSJ's ...should be a blast,,,

the set up also did good on the 22deg ramp .at our clubs Ramp Day ..........its ramped 810

[taco]

ok everyone where the hell do i get a pitman arm for a 77 fsj with an soa and is there any other things i need to look out for because right now the right front soring hits the trac bar, taco

[River Beast]

you really need X_over Steering ( you can see it in my pic above)

www.bjsoffroad.com (http://www.bjsoffroad.com) should have a pitman arm for you.. but X-Over steering is better....

[Robber80]

i haven't lifted a tire since i did my suspension work. i don't notice any problemns with revolvers and handling either. i'd deffenetly go SOA poley

[Poley]

I have decided not to go w/ the revolvers, but to go SOA this summer. so RB expect an order from me in the next couple of months.

[River Beast]

No Problem Patrick.... looking forward to talking with you...

[Robber80]

you can always add revolvers later ;)

[River Beast]

Originally posted by Robber80:
you can always add revolvers later ;) yep.. you sure can... ;)

[Slim]

speakin of Revolvers,,,,,, i saw on 2 sites now , people running " Revolver Shackles from Metal Made-Rite "

any one know more of this brand? better? worse? cheaper ??????

[MocKKnighT]

metal made-rite is the original company that developed revolver shackles (If my memory serves me right), Until they sold the rights to teraflex. I think they still make Revolvers that are 3/4" bigger than teraflex and aren't as weak.

[KYJ10]

poley, I guess youve searched for info on SOA and revolvers, but heres a link to this very subject.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62871&highlight=revolvers

Also do a search in all forums thier. Lots of good opinions to help with your decision. Dennis