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Sitting Bull
06-13-2003, 05:31 AM
Hey fellas, during a little RTI exercise at Tellico, I realized I could use one more inch or so of clearance up front. I'd like to not get new springs (I have 4" springs now), to save a little money.

Could I use an extended shackle? How well do these things hold up (as long as they're not too big). Keep in mind I'm only planning on moderate 4 wheelin.

Thanks!

River Beast
06-13-2003, 06:00 AM
GM 88 and up rear shackles will give you close to 1" of lift up front... I have 96 GM's up front...center pin will need a bit of grinding since the pins are 3" wide... and you can 'flare' your mount a tad to get it in there...

[ June 13, 2003, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: River Beast ]

rockjeep44
06-13-2003, 06:28 AM
I hear front lift blocks are all the rage these days...LOL Actually if you don't want to do the shackle thing I would stick a couple leaves from your old pack in the 4in pack. I've done this before with good results. Of course that was on a SOA truck but same concept.
-Andrew

Sitting Bull
06-13-2003, 06:38 AM
Andrew, I don't get how a few more leafs would add height with a SBA smile.gif setup. Will this just increase the arch some?

Todd, GM rear shackles...from any truck model? Anybody know how to get ahold of a new pair of them?

What are y'all's thoughts on longevity/quality?

Stuka
06-13-2003, 06:49 AM
a arched ALL will ive a bit of lift maybe. But a stock flat spring if anything will de-arch your lift springs. I need about 1" of lift up front also, so I am thinking shackles. I just need to get some. Either that or go with 6" springs in front to make it level witht he back.

rockjeep44
06-13-2003, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by Stuka:
a arched ALL will ive a bit of lift maybe. But a stock flat spring if anything will de-arch your lift springs.Good point

blt2krl
06-13-2003, 07:49 AM
You said a few more inches up front. LMAO, You could also use a set of Revolvers.

Booger
06-13-2003, 07:56 AM
Everyone wants a couple more inches up front smile.gif

Uhhh, but not me. Yeah, Yeah, but not me.

good luck

Sitting Bull
06-13-2003, 08:12 AM
How much do the revolvers lift? Are they a stock type of application (how much modifying)? And how safe are they on the street?

trickc
06-13-2003, 08:25 AM
Brad, Ive got 86 ford truck rear shackles on the front of the choptop, theyre actually 1 3/4 inches longer than stock so you get like 7/8 lift or so, Ive had no problems and have had them on for over a year now even with the abuse I put them thru. they were like 11.00 for the pair at pull a part. I believe the ones from a chevy 1500 truck or suburban are maybe another 1/8 inch longer like RB said . The 3/4 or one tons may be the same also.

LRRH
06-13-2003, 09:34 AM
and you can 'flare' your mount a tad to get it in there...definately go with the GM rear shackles in front like todd said. i did this at ouray at netted about 1-1.5 inches.

blt2krl
06-13-2003, 09:37 AM
Revolvers and GM Shackle net about 3/4in to 1in of lift.

SamoyedSled
06-13-2003, 09:39 AM
I've got the opposite prob, need about 1-2" in rear. I've got 4" Skyjacker, and back seems slightly lower.

I've taken track bars off, so If revolver shackles are the answer, I'll need to lengthen them to put them back on. I've heard bad things about revolvers w/o track bars on street.

I'd rather not add a block to the rear, is there a cheap shackle or does this not work on rear?

Sitting Bull
06-13-2003, 10:07 AM
A shackle wont work in the rear because it is a hung shackle (in tension instead of compression). So the longer you go, the lower it gets.

What's wrong with blocks in the rear, especially if it's only an inch? I think alot of people rag on them simply because it's a cheap fix. That extra inch is not going to create a bad axle wrap situation, especially if your not going crazy out there.

Stuka
06-13-2003, 10:45 AM
1-2" blocks arent bad in the rear. I run 2" blocks in back with out many probs. I have a tiny bit of axle wrap if I gas it hard, but nothing to bad.

SamoyedSled
06-13-2003, 01:19 PM
Thanks, blocks it is...

89grand
06-16-2003, 06:55 AM
Yeah there seems to be a lot of hatred for lift blocks but with 3" or less lift blocks I can't see there being any real problem. Most new 4wd trucks have lift blocks from the factory. A friend of mine has a 2000 Dodge Ram 4wd and it has about 2" blocks from the factory, I guess they use the same springs as the 2wd and they use the blocks to get the right height. If lift blocks were that dangerous I don't think they'd use them at the factory. I'm not encouraging the blocks, I just don't they're that bad if used properly and sensibly.

Navajo
06-16-2003, 07:32 AM
1" blocks aren't bad, just don't get the 1" aluminum ones Pro-Comp sells. Fab-Tech got a 1" thats steel I think? I order a set for GlennTx but didn't get to check them out before he picked them up.

Tad
06-16-2003, 09:05 AM
Brad, I also run the rear ford f150 shackles up front, they are 4 1/4" eye to eye, didn't even need new bushings. I'd say it was about an inch, didn't take any before measurments.