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scotty
06-21-2003, 12:26 AM
since i know we all like to see pics of carnage and destruction,i thot id put up a quick pic of my broken spicer 18 transfer case

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/Misc-Pictures/brokenTC1.JPG

as you can see,the teeth are completely missing on about 1/3 of the lower slider(low range gear). the intermediate gear is actually in not terrible shape,with only a couple of teeth being chunked up. the angle cut(high range) gears,including the input gear are fine. compared to number 1 and number 3,this one is actually in pretty good shape smile.gif pretty much every gear in those cases was missing all the teeth,with number 3 locking up completely while pulling me back to camp. :eek:

notice the 10 spline output shaft is fine ;)

[ June 21, 2003, 06:28 AM: Message edited by: scotty ]

Midnightwagon
06-21-2003, 12:41 AM
redface.gif ouch!!!!! well at least you have a few backups.

Sambo
06-21-2003, 02:00 AM
kewl cause i was wondering about the output on a d20 which is the same 10 spline :/
need some new gears in there huh?

scotty
06-21-2003, 02:35 AM
im tired of breaking them,so this time im installing a d20 in its place. i am curious to see if i continue to break gears,or if i start twisting off d20 tailsahfts,wich i understand to be a common occurence on d20s that are pushed hard with big tires ;)

the case pictured was assembled with 2.03 d20 gears,wich insinuates( to me at least) that the prollem is moreso due to size/weight of vehicle and tires,rather than the gears themselves,wich was a previous theory.id thot maybe i was breaking 2.46 gears since all of them that you find are 30+ years old.

ive also got quite a few d20 parts,so i can twist off a few output shafts before i have to put in a 205. im hoping to make the d20s last long enuff to get my 435/203/205 ready :cool:

River Beast
06-21-2003, 02:40 AM
YUK!!!! At least you got backups.... thats the best part... no money involved.... just time...

scotty
06-21-2003, 02:47 AM
yup no $$ involved,cept for some carb cleaner,a couple shift shaft seals,and a can of purple paint. ive been accumulating d20 stuff for awhile,and last year i got 3 spicer 18s at a scout swap meet at prices ranging from $30 to $50. i still have 2 coomplete scout cases,but theres no sense in breaking them...

ive got a complete d20,2 tailshaft housings,and at least 1 good tailsahft not in a housing,among other asorted parts tongue.gif

mtn goat
06-21-2003, 03:10 AM
Hey...I thought the little tiny 258 couldnt break stuff like that :razz: So much for "No replacement for displacment....I like the 258, its a beast! :D

porkchop
06-21-2003, 03:44 AM
Ouch! Remember when I shattered my main output gear? It was last year. We all thought it was pretty strange then that the output shaft didn't break first. I have faith in the D20. I too have collected many parts for spares ;) .

scotty
06-21-2003, 02:41 PM
mtn goat there was a time when i thot the 6 cyl was helping me keep parts breakage to a minimum,but the 258 breaks stuff just fine smile.gif

ya i remember that PC,it was strange that the input gear let go first.just goes to show how you cant always predict what will break...

Stuka
06-22-2003, 04:23 AM
An 80's 258 makes more low end grunt then an 80's 360 at low rpm's. So I say if anything it hurts you more :D Although in higher rpm's a 360 makes more HP and torque.

Tad
06-22-2003, 07:47 AM
Seems like another reason for me to be hanging on to spare dana20 parts too smile.gif

Aaron
06-23-2003, 12:42 AM
Did you break that towing my old trailer?
smile.gif

scotty
06-23-2003, 12:47 AM
LOL,nope,broke it by bringing the revs up and dumping the clutch in 2nd gear in the middle of a hill to try and pop myself over a root at the top.

i have used the p*ss out of your trailer,tho,ive added it to the top of the "most useful things ive ever purched" list :D

i hauled over 300#s of weeds to the incinerator with it,used it to haul off a bunch of old skids at work,and even picked up a ton of gravel to spread around my ex-flower beds :cool:

orangecherokee
06-23-2003, 03:55 AM
scotty be glad you got extra shafts cuz you'll need them. i believe if you wanted the 32 spline output, that'll run you about $400-$500. it almost seems better to have an extra case like Rockwagon has in the back. a large PITA but you'll be mobile. ;)

scotty
06-23-2003, 04:49 AM
yeah,the tailsahft housing is a fairly easy swap on the trail. when we go further away,i allready carry a spare transer case in the tow rig. ill prolly carry a tailshaft in a housing,and a complete spare case

at any rate,theres no way id spend $400-$500 to beef up a 20. ill stick 465/205 in there before id do something like that...

orangecherokee
06-23-2003, 09:06 AM
that's a smart move. i'm hoping to go with a 205 later on as well.

dish
06-24-2003, 05:50 PM
i was woundering if a d300 was a good t-case

scotty
06-24-2003, 11:56 PM
its prolly stronger than the 20,but still not in the same league as the 205.they make a beefy tailsahft upgrade for it as well ;)