Best locker to use ...

[skid2964]

I WAS going to use ARB air-lockers front and rear, but to save a few hundred bucks, I may just use a air locker up front and a regular locker in the rear. Which one is recommended? (79 Cherokee W/T, Dana 44's front and rear, q-trac).

Any problems running fully locked AND in e-drive?

[ March 08, 2004, 08:56 AM: Message edited by: skid2964 ]

[jode]

Originally posted by skid2964:
Any problems running fully locked AND in e-drive?Not offroad :D The good thing about a selectable up front is that you can power it off to make turns. Turning with the front locked is not as easy.

Detroit (for the rear) is the old standby, and you can't go wrong there.

[skid2964]

Who has detroit lockers for the dana 44? I just looked at Summit and jegs ... could not find ... said only for ford 9"

[rockcandy]

lots of people have detroits. I personally went with Randys ring and Pinion. I had a few friends that went with them and they were happy so I tried em. Very happy with service. I got a spool in the back and a detroit up front, 4.56 gears f/r and master rebuild kits f/r..I think it was around $1170 shipped to my door. I say if you drive it every day just get a detroit rear and ARB front.

[jode]

Detroit on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33731&item=2465470735)

[skid2964]

Originally posted by rockcandy:
lots of people have detroits. I personally went with Randys ring and Pinion. I had a few friends that went with them and they were happy so I tried em. Very happy with service. I got a spool in the back and a detroit up front, 4.56 gears f/r and master rebuild kits f/r..I think it was around $1170 shipped to my door. I say if you drive it every day just get a detroit rear and ARB front.Sounds like we will have similar rigs! mine is a golden eagle also. I also will be installing 4.56 gears but will use 35's. What RPM do you run at highway speeds?

[skid2964]

I found them(detroit locker) at tellico4x4 for $500? sound about right?

[jode]

Originally posted by skid2964:
I found them...$500? sound about right?Yep

[skid2964]

Well, thats not much cheaper than a air locker, but enough cheaper. smile.gif

[jode]

Cheaper, and bulletproof. Not much to go wrong...whereas any actuated locker has the potential to not actuate (due to various reasons) when you need it to.

The other (cheaper) option is a full spool for the rear.

[rockcandy]

hmmmm..highway..what's that? No, seriously though, I haven't had it on the highway with my 36" tires yet. It actually hasn't left my street with the 36" tires yet. I did have 33" BFG's on it for a little bit after switching to 4.56 and I must say, it wasn't pleasant. 35" tires would be an improvement though...given the tire size of 36" and 75mph speed limit here, I would run 3,200rpms. Since I will probably drive this thing maybe 65mph to the trails here, that would put me at 2,700rpms. My tires actually measure 36" though. What brand of 35" tires are you going with? Some run smaller than others so that will also effect your rpm's. You can use this RPM calculator for a reference...
http://www.quiknet.com/~ke6vut/rpmcalc.html

[ March 08, 2004, 09:38 AM: Message edited by: rockcandy ]

[skid2964]

I'll do the detroit, i've always liked those. Had a '64 Catalina with a detroit locker. Used to launch it at 7000 RPM with a 50lb flywheel, the rear never broke. That engine (600HP 421) did have my Borg Warner super T10 for lunch one day though. smile.gif

That was many years ago, I was wondering if something else was better these days. guess its hard to ever beat a detroit.

[skid2964]

Originally posted by rockcandy:
hmmmm..highway..what's that? No, seriously though, I haven't had it on the highway with my 36" tires yet. It actually hasn't left my street with the 36" tires yet. I did have 33" BFG's on it for a little bit after switching to 4.56 and I must say, it wasn't pleasant. 35" tires would be an improvement though...given the tire size of 36" and 75mph speed limit here, I would run 3,200rpms. Since I will probably drive this thing maybe 65mph to the trails here, that would put me at 2,700rpms. My tires actually measure 36" though. What brand of 35" tires are you going with? Some run smaller than others so that will also effect your rpm's. You can use this RPM calculator for a reference...
http://www.quiknet.com/~ke6vut/rpmcalc.htmlIm not sure, I was looking at swamper SSR's because I like the 35x10.50's. But I've read where the swampers dont do too well due to rapid wear and balancability. So I guess I will try BFG M/T ? I have not completely decided.

[rockcandy]

SSR's are nice tires...They seem to do better in muddy conditions than the BFG's. Since you are in Mississippi that may be something you want to consider. Also, BFG doesn't make a cookie cutter in the 35" size. You might try asking gwinn here on the forum. I know he runs the SSR's. Although last time I asked him about them he said he was going to go with another tire when he purchased new ones, but our terrain is very different than yours.

[skid2964]

Originally posted by rockcandy:
SSR's are nice tires...They seem to do better in muddy conditions than the BFG's. Since you are in Mississippi that may be something you want to consider. Also, BFG doesn't make a cookie cutter in the 35" size. You might try asking gwinn here on the forum. I know he runs the SSR's. Although last time I asked him about them he said he was going to go with another tire when he purchased new ones, but our terrain is very different than yours.yeah, my use would be mostly on-road-use, and the occasional off-road use would be muddy conditions. So I need a tire that will be stable on-road. I guess BFG's have a the best reputation for that. But I sure like the way those swampers look!

[Berrett]

Originally posted by rockcandy:
SSR's are nice tires...They seem to do better in muddy conditions than the BFG's. Since you are in Mississippi that may be something you want to consider. Also, BFG doesn't make a cookie cutter in the 35" size. You might try asking gwinn here on the forum. I know he runs the SSR's. Although last time I asked him about them he said he was going to go with another tire when he purchased new ones, but our terrain is very different than yours.i know a guy and i swear he has 35x10.5 bfgs, but maybe my memory isn't right

[skid2964]

Originally posted by Berrett:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by rockcandy:
SSR's are nice tires...They seem to do better in muddy conditions than the BFG's. Since you are in Mississippi that may be something you want to consider. Also, BFG doesn't make a cookie cutter in the 35" size. You might try asking gwinn here on the forum. I know he runs the SSR's. Although last time I asked him about them he said he was going to go with another tire when he purchased new ones, but our terrain is very different than yours.i know a guy and i swear he has 35x10.5 bfgs, but maybe my memory isn't right</font>[/QUOTE]Oh? that would be the ticket, maybe I need to call BFG and find out!

[Berrett]

it might have been a metric size or something, but i know it was definetly much taller and quite a bit skinnier than my 33x12.5 bfgs