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KYJ10
06-02-2003, 10:10 AM
I have had a 30 and a 44 welded, and had no problems with either. I would guess a 60 would hold up even better. I really can't afford a Detroit, but if you'all think I should, I might? Thoughts? Thanks, Dennis

River Beast
06-02-2003, 10:13 AM
I would go locked and not welded... just me though...I wouldn't spend good money on the 60 and weld it up...

Stuka
06-02-2003, 10:25 AM
if you plan on re-gearing and everything down the road go ahead and weld it. But if your building it up the first time around, go detroit. Or if you want a spool, buy a spool, dont rely on a weld for something you are gona be abusing.

tuck
06-02-2003, 10:26 AM
do you want to be able to steer?
you know how a welded front drives. I have had a welded 30 front, and now a gm 10 bolt welded, but if I decide to use that 60 I just picked up... I think I'm going to lay down some cash for an ARB or a Detroit..

KYJ10
06-02-2003, 10:31 AM
What does a spool cost? I don't plan on doing much road driving anymore. I will need to regear. Dennis

JeepKahn
06-02-2003, 10:37 AM
I guess everyone forgets the old stockcar trick for locking a diff... You pull out the carrier lay it on a bench melt down some lead and fill the diff with lead...Just make sure when you fill it that you've got your shafts in the side gears... And it is a reversible option, if you decide you don't like it you can melt the lead out with a propane torch... My old man worked on a pitcrew in Cali back during the 60's and thats what all the guys ran, and the were running highspeeds and not having any probs with vibes or such as long as you grind the excess off smoothly...

scotty
06-02-2003, 03:43 PM
you will still break it,but youll prolly break it with a detroit as well. if youre going to buy a locker spend a couple hunderd more $$ and be able to turn it off. smile.gif

i ran a welded front for awhile,but im curently running a detroit true trac,and while its a great LSD,ill prolly weld the diff in the 10 bolt im about to install.ive actually broke just as much stuff with my truetrac as i have with the welded front.

rockwagon runs a welded 60 front,and i seem to recall him saying he breaks about 1 inner axle,stub or u joint per year. compared to about 6 of the same parts per year with a 44 ;)

tomd
06-02-2003, 04:26 PM
Can you get spools for 30 spline D60s? I could be wrong, but i thought you could only get them for 35 spline right now.

scotty
06-02-2003, 11:31 PM
kinduva moot point,since his front will be 35. IMO a properly made lincoln locker is just as good as a spool for way less $$. their manners will be the same.you wont be able to steer worth a crap with either on a high traction surface with both hubs locked :D

you cant beat the "traction recieved per dollar spent" aspect of a good ol lincoln locker tongue.gif

waggin'ear
06-03-2003, 12:04 AM
How can you afford a 60 (front?) and not be able able to afford a detroit? ;)

rockjeep44
06-03-2003, 12:31 AM
I'd weld it, if you don't like it buy a detroit. They replace the carrier anyways. I ride with guys with welded front and rearends on a regular basis and I've never seen any strength related problems.
-Andrew

Rockwagon
06-03-2003, 02:07 PM
rockwagon runs a welded 60 front,and i seem to recall him saying he breaks about 1 inner axle,stub or u joint per year. compared to about 6 of the same parts per year with a 44 ;) [/QB]I havn't broke a 60 shaft yet after about 2 years of wheeling. I think I might have said that as an estiment going on fellow club statisics. With the hydrolic assist steering is not a problem.

scotty
06-03-2003, 03:18 PM
i stand corrected. smile.gif thats good news to hear,as im thinking of putting in my 70 sooner than later ifn i end up with a set of 4.56 gears for it. ill be running it welded,adding a ram,and hoping it lasts long enuff to save up for some high strength shafts for it. are you still running stock inners and outers?

GreenMachine
06-03-2003, 03:47 PM
I think welded is better than a locker personally. I think that little bit of give they have to them is kind of like bouncing sometimes. You get some give then engaged "snap" wheras with a lincoln locker you are gonna spin them no matter what. A spool would be the same as a properly lincoln locked carrier and a waste of money IMHO.

I have a detroit in two rearends right now and they really suck on the road even if you are used to them . Sometimes I will give it a little gas and the rearend will try to pass the front (course I don't drive much on the road so it don't really matter). In a front end if you can pony up the cash get a selectable locker. If not I would recommend welding. If you have problems steering just unlock one hub.

Rockwagon
06-05-2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by scotty:
i stand corrected. smile.gif thats good news to hear,as im thinking of putting in my 70 sooner than later ifn i end up with a set of 4.56 gears for it. ill be running it welded,adding a ram,and hoping it lasts long enuff to save up for some high strength shafts for it. are you still running stock inners and outers?Yup the axles shafts are still all stock. When ever I break a stub I will upgrade to 35 splines.

rockjeep44
06-06-2003, 01:27 AM
Holy crap, you're still running the 30 spline outers :eek: I can't believe you haven't turned them into pretzels yet. I blew out a 30 spline moser outer before I went to 35 spline like it was candy.
-Andrew

Rockwagon
06-06-2003, 08:10 AM
It is all about the finesse with the skinny petal!!! BWAAAAAAAAAHHHHAAAAHHHAAAAAHHHAAAHHHHAAAHHHA!!!!! I almost kept striaght face on that one!

scotty
06-06-2003, 06:19 PM
finesse? :confused: :D tongue.gif