The Honcho does Black Bear Pass in 2wd

[ColeTrickle]

Pics will be up shortly when my little Jeep buddy "Fireman" returns.

I thought I had a functioning QT...NOPE!
I even pulled the rear driveshaft to see if I had power to the front axle. I moved the Honcho about two feet and called it good. Don S. can vouch for that.

Tuesday after most of the FSJ members left, I went out on a Jeep run with CJ's, YJ's and a Rubicon all locked in the rear if not both. These guys were up to doing some trails and one in particular that I was very fearful of.....Black Bear.
I know some guys here are gonna say "you said" and "I should have"....but.

Peer pressure and being the only fullsize representative I couldn't show ANY weakness :eek: . So I said lets do it :rolleyes: .
I was tailgunning and came to the first stair step. All the guys and gals were watching and the trail leader Gerald, says your "front axle isn't getting any power".
Do some checking with Fireman, check on vacuum, all seems well but still no engagement.
Well at this point I was ready to throw in the towel and take the easy way out. Richard in the Rubi offers to follow me back to Ouray and give me a ride into Telluride via Imogene Pass to meet up with the others.
At this point there really wasn't much more climbing just the hair-pins and switchbacks.

So out of the two choices I had and when everybodies going "it's easy" and "you'll have no problem". I gave in once again :confused: .

I didn't do it alone for sure and I had plenty of spotter help.
I don't believe I'll ever do it again in 2wd...it's kinda hairy when your backing up in a switchback and your rear wheel looses traction and you have to pull further forward towards the edge to make another run at it :D ;)

[viscacha]

Way to go, and welcome back. I have a couple pics for you. I will send them via email. :cool:

[Glenn_tx]

Surprised he could tell your front axle wasn't working thru the smoke screen you always leave. smile.gif

Glad you got back in one piece.

[ColeTrickle]

Hey thanks for the welcome backs!

Glad to finally met yall. Hope yall had a great time like I did.

Glenn your gonna have to bring that Wag up there next time. We'll run Black Bear.

Hope you don't blame me for not runnin' it in your little Jeep ;)

[fulsizjeep]

WOW!!! Kenny - sounds like your QT E-Drive shifter is all Kaputa. Sorry to hear that. Glad you made it safe. How much fabric did ya pull up from the seat on those switch backs? smile.gif I did the one along side the water fall with no fuel in the carb since it was so steep it all ran to the front of the tank and coasted it to the next hairpin. YEOW! That was fun. ;)

[Glenn_tx]

Originally posted by ColeTrickle:
Hey thanks for the welcome backs!

Glad to finally met yall. Hope yall had a great time like I did.

Glenn your gonna have to bring that Wag up there next time. We'll run Black Bear.

Hope you don't blame me for not runnin' it in your little Jeep ;) Naw, I don't blame you. The rental company had a sticker in the windshield that said "Stay off Black Bear Pass!" We still had a blast watching all the other FSJ's.

[ColeTrickle]

Originally posted by Flint:
WOW!!! Kenny - sounds like your QT E-Drive shifter is all Kaputa. Sorry to hear that. Glad you made it safe. How much fabric did ya pull up from the seat on those switch backs? smile.gif I did the one along side the water fall with no fuel in the carb since it was so steep it all ran to the front of the tank and coasted it to the next hairpin. YEOW! That was fun. ;) LOL! I'd say!
BTW...the guys in the little Jeeps kept saying they were big fans of "SouthPark" LOL!
I don't like the name "Kenny" mentioned anywhere near a cliff!

[Stuka]

are you locked in back cole? or did you manage it with an open dif?

[Don S]

Originally posted by ColeTrickle:
I thought I had a functioning QT...NOPE!
I even pulled the rear driveshaft to see if I had power to the front axle. I moved the Honcho about two feet and called it good. Don S. can vouch for that. ;) ..
"Cole"... in case you are still beside a clift
YEP! It not only went two feet but up a 10+ degree climb !!! :confused:
... I went by the Bishops castle and it was totally packed with people... http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/smiley-faces-28.gif

Good Luck.. http://www.nagca.com/forum/images/smiles/1band.gifand CUL.. Don S..

[ColeTrickle]

Yup, I don't understand it either!
It's gonna be put on hold for awhile until I can get another reliable vehicle up and runnin'.

BTW...I would have gone that route but needed to get home. I made it into West Cliff? and decided I needed to get the Honcho back in my neck of the woods. Boy what a drive all the way to Walsenburg! For awhile there I thought I lost third gear!
Glad you and Doris made it back safe and sound.
I'll get your custom foam back to ya ASAP!

[Heimeken]

Cole, you are a brave man do Black Bear to begin with! Now I'm gonna have to do it next time.

[viscacha]

Yep, I should have done black bear too, since my truck was running well.

Cole, you may have very well run every trail in 2wheel low the entire trip. Could be a first. :cool:

[turtlejoe]

Originally posted by ColeTrickle:
...it's kinda hairy when your backing up in a switchback and your rear wheel looses traction and you have to pull further forward towards the edge to make another run at it :D ;) I hear Foley's is having a sale on Fruit of the Looms ...
:D :D :D

[Damage, Inc.]

Yup...Black Bear is very interesting. I have no desire to run it again though. Not a challenge (only deadly dangerous), and the scenery isn't worth my life!!

[fulsizjeep]

I would like to run it with a full tank of fuel. smile.gif Some of the road going down to Telluride is steep, all the fuel ran to the front of the tank and the engine died a couple times. Had to coast into a switch back once to get the front end up and get fuel flowing again. Yeah, a little nervous... ;) Then I still had 11 gallons in the tank (33 gal capacity) when we gassed up at the Conoco in Telluride. Might be something wrong there. :D

As a matter of fact, I was out of gas when this was shot:
http://www.frontier.net/~mystkblu/ouray03/downblackbear.jpg

[ July 28, 2003, 06:19 PM: Message edited by: Flint ]

[Narnian]

Is that where you were headed when you drove by me on my bike?

[ColeTrickle]

Flint..awesome shot dude!!! :D :cool:

Rueben...yup! You had quite a way to go...BTW, where were ya headed? :eek:
Looked like you had enough stuff on that bike to need a FSJ :D

Did ya run Poughkeepsie, make it to Silverton?

Glad to see ya got back safe and sound.

[Don S]

..
We have a one hour vhs tape of our '76 Wagoneer doing black Bear in 1992...
from turtlejoe...
I hear Foley's is having a sale on Fruit of the Looms ... :D :D :D [/QB]..
... We've done Black Bear Road 4 times in three of our 4x4s and each time I wished my Fruit was still fastened to the Looms http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/smiley-faces-28.gif
http://groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nGwAAAGIG00gm44oa93gAuqvzJVGi9lj0HjUOJFmfo vGzOwYFrLue!KXNdThePodlthis was 1999
Good Luck.. http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/p7334b9940833aad72b83f0cf3a61eac8/fc6a835c.gifand CUL.. Don S..

[Narnian]

Originally posted by ColeTrickle:

Rueben...yup! You had quite a way to go...BTW, where were ya headed? :eek:
Looked like you had enough stuff on that bike to need a FSJ :D

Did ya run Poughkeepsie, make it to Silverton?

Glad to see ya got back safe and sound.I went to Silverton Via Engineer. I camped out on that corner by Poughkeepsie where we saw some 4X4's camped out. I thought about riding up poughkeepsie, but California pass is about 800 feet higher and I didn't think I could handle the altitude. No way to set the timing forward on my lungs!

[ July 28, 2003, 10:20 PM: Message edited by: Narnian ]

[Fireman]

O.K. Kenny, here goes my first attempt at posting a picture. If this goes thru, I'll post more. This is a pic of the two wheel drive Honcho on Black Bear. http://javascript:popup('Ouray2003 246.jpg', '')

[Fireman]

I don't see the image. Am I supposed to be able to see it or can it only be seen by everyone else?
:confused:
Oh well back to the drawing board. tongue.gif

[fulsizjeep]

http://javascript:popup'Ouray2003 246.jpg', '' That doesn't look like it's got the whole address in it... ;)

[Michael]

where's the pics Fireman???????????

[ColeTrickle]

Yeah! What he said^^^^^^

[Fireman]

I don't know what you're talking about ColeTrickle. You never did Black Bear. Especially not in two wheel drive. Who are you trying to kid here. ;) No pictures, no proof.

[Fireman]

o.k o.k I'll try to post the pics, later this week. You might have to walk me through it.

[ColeTrickle]

Thats what I thought!!!

Oh yeah, show the pics of the girls too!!!
Granted it's just the back of their heads...but thats all I remember too!!! ;)

[ August 06, 2003, 10:09 PM: Message edited by: ColeTrickle ]

[Glenn_tx]

Originally posted by ColeTrickle:
Thats what I thought!!!

Oh yeah, show the pics of the girls too!!!
Granted it's just the back of their heads...but thats all I remember too!!! ;) Do tell!

[Fireman]

Girls? What girls? I think the exhaust fumes must have been getting to you. ;) I don't remember any girls. smile.gif

[Fireman]

Ok here goes the second attempt at posting pic.

2wd Honcho on 1st switchback of Blackbear http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/gatherings/Ouray2003 242.jpg

[Fireman]

2wd Honcho on Blackbear (http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/gatherings/Ouray2003 242.jpg)
Let's try this with a link and see if that works.

[Fireman]

I give. The computer wins for now.

[ColeTrickle]

Hmmm....let me try...
http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/gatherings/Ouray2003%20242.jpg

O.k., thats one of the Honcho, but how 'bout the girls??? :D

Glenn, I'll have to tell ya the story later.... ;) :D :cool:

Ok, I think the problem is the space between, 2003 and 242 in the link.

[ August 07, 2003, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: ColeTrickle ]

[JeepBountyHunter]

WOW!!!!