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Munichbob
07-13-2000, 01:02 AM
I was looking at the www.wagonmaster.com (http://www.wagonmaster.com) site and found a nice list of the Standard Features of the GWag. Listed under Miscellaneous was the following:
Angle of Approach: 39 deg
Angle of departure: 20 deg
Breakover Angle: 24 deg

Are these the angles from the bottom of the front and rear of the tires to the first point of contact on the frame for approach and departure. In other words you could drive up against a hill an as long as the angle of the incline did not exceed 39 degrees you wouldn't hit the bumper or the lowest hanging structure. And the rollover angle for the breakover angle.

Thanks
Bob

MonsterMash
07-13-2000, 01:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Munichbob:
I was looking at the www.wagonmaster.com (http://www.wagonmaster.com) site and found a nice list of the Standard Features of the GWag. Listed under Miscellaneous was the following:
Angle of Approach: 39 deg
Angle of departure: 20 deg
Breakover Angle: 24 deg

Are these the angles from the bottom of the front and rear of the tires to the first point of contact on the frame for approach and departure. In other words you could drive up against a hill an as long as the angle of the incline did not exceed 39 degrees you wouldn't hit the bumper or the lowest hanging structure. And the rollover angle for the breakover angle.

Thanks
Bob<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wonder what the departure angle is with the stock receiver hitch. I always seem to drag that. I would think that a "roll-over" angle would be much greater than 24 degrees. I've been at close to 45 degrees before and stayed on my wheels. There is an important angle for four-bys (don't know the name though) that is the angle between the wheels and the lowest point under the vehicle, between the axles. This basically tells you how large of a bump you can traverse without getting high centered. I think this would be closer to the 24 degrees mentioned.

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'84GW360--"Spinner"
And on the eighth day God created Jeep so man would not be bored.

[This message has been edited by MonsterMash (edited July 13, 2000).]

MonsterMash
07-13-2000, 01:51 AM
Just checked out the specs area of the "Wagonmaster" site and I noticed it states that the wheels are 5 lug??? I thought all the GWs had 6 lug axles. Am I wrong about this??

It sure is neat to see all the GW features laid out in a nice chart. Now all we need to do is recruit the "Wagonmaster's" mechanics/rebuilders into this forum!! http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~zeimet/ubb/wink.gif I bet they know some tricks and probably have some good parts sources as well.

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'84GW360--"Spinner"
And on the eighth day God created Jeep so man would not be bored.

BobBarry
07-13-2000, 06:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MonsterMash:
Just checked out the specs area of the "Wagonmaster" site and I noticed it states that the wheels are 5 lug??? I thought all the GWs had 6 lug axles. Am I wrong about this??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They were 5-lug up to 1973, and 6-lug from 1974 onward.

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Bob Barry
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>* '78 Cherokee 4-door
* '88 Grand Wagoneer[/list]
http://studentweb.providence.edu/~rbarry/wheels/

JERRY88GW
07-13-2000, 04:01 PM
From what I've seen, I think Bob Barry is just a good of a resource for knowlege and parts than any mechanic from wagonmasters.

Jerry

scotty
07-14-2000, 12:56 AM
monstermash,

the angle your refering to is the breakover angle that bob was referring to.i dont know if there is an official type name for the roll over angle,but ive had mine alot ore than that too-ive had it at least at a 45 degree angle,ive got a little meter thats labled to about 30 degrees,and ive had her way past that... http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~zeimet/ubb/eek.gif


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scott
85 grand wagoneer
258/904/twin stick dana 300/dana 44/amc 20
38x15.5 gumbo mudders
snorkel/dual batteries/onboard air/"custom" convertable
3 inch body lift/mostly stock suspension/"modified" fender openings
custom front/rear bumpers and brushgaurd

Hollywood Dave
07-14-2000, 03:14 PM
Wagonmaster is one guy out of Kerville Texas (sells out of his driveway) that uses numerous mechanics to get his wagons in "nice shape"...the usual...new rubber, hoses, tires, fixes a few minor things, air brushes paint blemishes, details the jeeps very well (I'll give him that).
They show well but I have often wondered how he can find so many Grand Wagoneers with the low milage he seems to find.??? My father-in-law and brother-in -law bought one form him. Both of them had problems even though the Wagoneers looked great. He also want's a lot of coin for his Wagons.