Ok - I gotta show my ignorance here!!!

[JRZ_DAD]

ITSALONGSTORY...so heres the short version - I read an ad for a 77 cherokee that stated he had the QT with a 2x2 conversion kit installed. I've never heard of such an animal for a QT...can anyone enlighten me about this 'kit'?

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"Jeepasaurus Rex"
Red(Rust?) 78 Cherokee Chief (all stock till it breaks)

[Slippery]

Well, it would actually be a '4x2' kit (4 wheels, 2 of them driven). MileMarker makes a part-time conversion for the QT. It replaces the drive cones with something (anyone?) and uses locking hubs. 4WD is engaged with the e-drive vacuum switch.

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Jason K. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net4/icon16.gif

'88 Ford Festiva
40mpg work car
Cost $150, paid for itself already
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'90 Chevy Lumina
Biggest POS in the 115-year history of the automobile
4 cylinders, less than adequate for a car half its size
Crappy rear disc brakes, class-action lawsuit pending
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Some other junk not worth mentioning

[joe]

As Jason said it prolly has the MM part-time conversion kit in it so it's not in full-time 4WD all the time.

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Regards,
-joe
63 2-dr Wag, 72 J-4000, 73 J-4000, 82 CJ-8

[River Beast]

Yes it is the 4x2 conversion for the BW1339 QT unit...here is a pic of the conversion kit
http://www.4wheelparts.com/images/mmauadratrac.gif

Here is the link to see the options you can get it with or without... http://www.4wheelparts.com/product2.asp?imseqn=1131&occlass=Mil&cat=DRI



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Todd
"River Beast" (http://home.earthlink.net/~tjnkk)
http://home.earthlink.net/~riverbeast/rbthnl.jpg
14" of total Lift on 39.5" Swampers
44's locked with 4.89's
...and other stuff...
My Original FSJ site (http://www.geocities.com/spazz4life)
riverbeast@earthlink.net
"When approaching an intersection, remember...
the vehicle with the BIGGEST TIRES has the right of way..."

'93 3/4 ton 4x4 Suburban...a.k.a. "FSJ Hauler"

[JRZ_DAD]

Thanks Guys!...I appreciate the lesson! Now, any thoughts on reliability of this kit?

[River Beast]

No problem...

the reliability issues ssem to be good... only 2 people I know of had some parts they needed to replace after a few years of running... one guy runs 42" swampers (Above the Law) that should say ALOT for the strength factor for normal 33's or so.

They are easy to install as well... no need to remove the whole case....just the back half..best to replace the chain while you're there.... about 2 hours works total. I haven't done it yet...but maybe soon...stil debating on my swap to a dana 18...

They do sell the kit in a 16% overdrive... but I don't recommend it... it reduces EVERY GEAR by 16%, not just the final drive since it's AFTER the tranny....my .02 worth....

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Todd
"River Beast" (http://home.earthlink.net/~tjnkk)
http://home.earthlink.net/~riverbeast/rbthnl.jpg
14" of total Lift on 39.5" Swampers
44's locked with 4.89's
...and other stuff...
My Original FSJ site (http://www.geocities.com/spazz4life)
riverbeast@earthlink.net
"When approaching an intersection, remember...
the vehicle with the BIGGEST TIRES has the right of way..."

'93 3/4 ton 4x4 Suburban...a.k.a. "FSJ Hauler"

[joe]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JRZ_DAD:
Thanks Guys!...I appreciate the lesson! Now, any thoughts on reliability of this kit?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ultra reliable it seems. My QT w/MM kit has 175,000 on it and works just fine.

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Regards,
-joe
63 2-dr Wag, 72 J-4000, 73 J-4000, 82 CJ-8

[YaZahX]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by River Beast:
I haven't done it yet...but maybe soon...stil debating on my swap to a dana 18...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

if you do the swap and need to get rid of the case ill buy it.

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John Z.
My 82 Larado (http://www.virtue.nu/yazahx/jeep1.htm)
YaZahX@aol.com
"Yes that is a Real Jeep, yes the Jeep is older than me."
1982 Cherokee Larado
Edelbrock cam
Edelbrock intake manifold
Holley Projection
31” BFGoodrich

[Matt W]

Cool site! http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/biggrin.gif Now I know where to get mm kit to replace my current one when it finally takes a TIHS! and for way less than i thought! http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/biggrin.gif I had herad they were $1k, course that maybe with the markup and labor.

[jeepbob]

RB I really have to wonder about the durability of a D18 and large tires. I have seen these things ripped in two by a stock 227 v6 with 30's on a glass bodied CJ.

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65 wag. 360/edelbrock rb4/t400/20 t-case/4:10 d27/d44 broken power lok/onboard air/onboard 110v power(no inverter)/1999 Lincoln t.c.leather buckets/Lincoln ctr console/winch/33x12.50/tunes/water proof door pads
soon to have new motor/d44frt/d60r(4:10)welded diff/custom bumpers
see ya in da mud

[River Beast]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jeepbob:
RB I really have to wonder about the durability of a D18 and large tires. I have seen these things ripped in two by a stock 227 v6 with 30's on a glass bodied CJ.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I have conversed with Scotty on this same issue... there seems to be alot of conficting reports on the durability for the 18. The one thing I do know is there were 3 sizes of intermediate shafts .75", 1" and 1.25"....The larger being the stronger. I tend to believe the D18 will be a better unit for being gear driven rather than my chain driven QT for the amount of torque going thru it. The Dana 20 is also an option...both are strong, but the D18 has both outputs on the pass side which wuold match my offset rears. The Dana20 guts alos will fit in the 'right' Dana18 from what I gather. Ther only drawback between the 18 and the 20...the 18 uses all the gearing to drive the rear, thus having a pass side output for the rear where as the 20 runs directly off the tranny output shaft.

This is still lurking in my head... nothing set in stone yet...thanks for the input...

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Todd
"River Beast" (http://home.earthlink.net/~tjnkk)
http://home.earthlink.net/~riverbeast/rbthnl.jpg
14" of total Lift on 39.5" Swampers
44's locked with 4.89's
...and other stuff...
My Original FSJ site (http://www.geocities.com/spazz4life)
riverbeast@earthlink.net
"When approaching an intersection, remember...
the vehicle with the BIGGEST TIRES has the right of way..."

'93 3/4 ton 4x4 Suburban...a.k.a. "FSJ Hauler"