NT or WT???

[Woody Long]

OK OK! I know this may be a fair question to ask, but I still feel silly asking.

Here it goes.

How do you tell if your rig is a NT or a WT?

Secondly, can you 'easily' swap a NT for a WT? Or a WT for a NT? What kind of work will be done?

[J4GRAND]

WT's, such as the Cherokee Chief and J Series trucks, had the large fender flares where as the NT's did not. I suppose you could put WT axles on a NT, but you'd have to think about fender rubbing. As for NT axles on a WT, no way.

[Max Power]

actually you can tell by the driver... If the person behind the wheel of that FSJ is intelligent, good-looking and self-confident, well then you gotcherself a WT there.

any other type of 'lesser' driver and its prolly an NT. smile.gif

[Sitting Bull]

Originally posted by Colonel Angus:
actually you can tell by the driver... If the person behind the wheel of that FSJ is intelligent, good-looking and self-confident, well then you gotcherself a WT there.

any other type of 'lesser' driver and its prolly an NT. smile.gif -----

LMAO!!! Yip, Angus got that right on target!!!

But if the driver isn't there - look for the fender flares. The WT's have 3-4" fender flare extensions. The J-trucks have these - but they're even wider than the WT's

[ September 02, 2003, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: Sitting Bull ]

[PlasticBoob]

HEY HEY some of us cannot get a California emissions exempt Cherokee that has wide-track axles! tongue.gif :D

[imported_Big Red]

actually you can tell by the driver... If the person behind the wheel of that FSJ is intelligent, good-looking and self-confident, well then you gotcherself a WT there.

any other type of 'lesser' driver and its prolly an NT.
ditto!!!! LOL!!!HA!HA!HA!

[6foot4 again]

I resemble ... I mean, resent that! I'm gonna put WT's on my NT, w/ wider wheels, so look out for me!!

[OldGrayGhost]

ROFLMAO!!!!!! Better to have a NT than nothing at all. I ain't gonna lie, I want a WT Cherokee. They are so Billy.

[goofy289]

LOL! too funny. mabey NT could stand for "no teeth" ;)

[6foot4 again]

I have (1) teeth, I mean tooth....

....JK LMAO....

[PlasticBoob]

mabey NT could stand for "no teeth"Killer bunch of wolves you all are! http://home.off-road.com/~plasticboob/faces/boid.gif

Where's all the Grand Wag owners to kick their butts for talkin' trash on the NTs!?! ;)

JUST KIDDING! tongue.gif :D

[ September 03, 2003, 11:30 PM: Message edited by: plasticboob ]

[6foot4 again]

Like the old Pace Picante salsa commercials, the cowboys ( NT owners ) say to each other 'Get a rope...' referring to drawing and quartering those pesky WT owners...

[bigun]

ROTFLOL

[6foot4 again]

you know, we may not be as WIDE as all of you WT owners ( get it? ), but I can almost guarantee that there are more NT owners here, so boys ( and girls ), you're out numbered...

[6foot4 again]

...sorry, was thinking about those old westerns again ( note to self: you REALLY have to stop that )...

[PlasticBoob]

6foot4 LOL Ain't they a wild buncha hooligans? Where's ma narrow axleshaft to whap 'em on the head? :D http://home.off-road.com/~plasticboob/faces/RockOn.gif

[6foot4 again]

I got my front driveline behind my front seat for "protection"....

[6foot4 again]

...or for that errant WT owner who gets a little TOO cocky...

LMAO OTFR BISD (=O=) my TIE fighter will take care of your WT's smile.gif LOL

[imported_Big Red]

My apologies!! Yea, NT are good for a couple of things...like getting groceries or going to church!!!! LOL!!!

[Sitting Bull]

You guys are really crackin me up!

[talntar]

my nt will fit between those trees before your wt

[6foot4 again]

sorry, no church, I'm Wiccan, now the groceries, I'll fit between the rocks you get stuck on, go down the trail to the store, pick up dinner, head back up the trail, and have the barbequed food fixed before you get unstuck...

LMAO

[Sitting Bull]

So, what your saying is, all the NT guys should cook the WT guys dinner while we're out wheelin? Hm...sounds good to me!

(LMAO - again, all in jest)

[6foot4 again]

no, I'm saying that, in the time it'll take you WT owners to get unstuck, I'd have had time to LEARN how to cook, slow pieces o. ....

[6foot4 again]

LMAO JK WT owners...

[Max Power]

I know I kinda started this... but can't we all just get along? smile.gif

BTW- WOO HOO!!! I'm a Grease Monkey now!!

[ September 04, 2003, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: Colonel Angus ]

[6foot4 again]

we are, just ribbing each other good-naturedly...

[Sitting Bull]

Originally posted by 6foot4:
no, I'm saying that, in the time it'll take you WT owners to get unstuck, I'd have had time to LEARN how to cook, slow pieces o. ....---------

ROTFLMAO!!!

[6foot4 again]

I love *sniff* how we can *sniff* joke around with each other *sniff*....

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/Misc-Pictures/lastshot.jpg

LOL, I'm so CORNY...

[ September 04, 2003, 07:26 PM: Message edited by: 6foot4 ]

[Rande]

Have you guys been drinkin'?

[6foot4 again]

no, just havin *hiccup* some *hiccup* fun, I'm preacher as an ossicer, foburr *hiccup*....

[OldGrayGhost]

Originally posted by Big Red:
My apologies!! Yea, NT are good for a couple of things...like getting groceries or going to church!!!! LOL!!!Yeah mine was a tried and true daily driver and will be again when it's fixed. It functions well for all facets of my life. I have never regreted trading that raggedy K5 blazer for it. The simplicity of it's nature is what I love the most. Nothin Fancy, nothing jacked 3 feet in the air, w/ big tires and winch to boot. I loved the thread where all the WT owners posted their rides. They were all extrodinary rigs and I spent some time admiring the craftsmanship on display. But my old 76 NT is different, it is stock, and it hauls the groceries proudly. It isn't lifted so those groceries are really easy to load, so are engine blocks or whatever else life has me carrying. Not all of us need bigfoot, some us just need a ride to work. I will always love NT's. NT's came before WT"S, so with no NT"s there would be any WT's. Respect yo' elders!!! tongue.gif

[6foot4 again]

thank you, OGG...

[OldGrayGhost]

Originally posted by 6foot4:
thank you, OGG...My pleasure boss, maybe some more NT owners will jump in and defend the breed too. Hopefully I poured enough gas on the fire to keep it burning in favor of the NT's.

[6foot4 again]

NT owners, let's band together to knock these WT owners around a little....

LMAO

[PlasticBoob]

I just like the style of my NT much better than the WT, although the WTs are much more capable and you can add bigger tires with less lift. But I have more retro than your WT, baby :D ;) Plus I have the 401 with the 4300 manifold, not that funky 4350 that you see on the '75 and ups (mostly WT) - So I could fit a Truck Avenger directly on with no problems! So there too, hah! ;) All in good fun smile.gif Look at my poll and you can see who favors what the most:

http://www.ifsja.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=015178

[jeepguzzi]

][/QUOTE] NT's came before WT"S, so with no NT"s there would be any WT's. Respect yo' elders!!! tongue.gif [/QB][/QUOTE]

Dude!! Check your facts!! 1962 had a Gladiator pick up, right?? Isn't that a wide trac????? :confused:

[imported_Big Red]

Dude!! Check your facts!! 1962 had a Gladiator pick up, right?? Isn't that a wide trac?????
Bammm!

Yea your right about having to squeeze through narrow openings. It happened to me on a ride here in AZ. Had a tree t the left and a fence post on the right. I was the only one that could not fit through. So... I just ran over the fence post. NO Problem!!

[Green Giant]

So... I just ran over the fence post. NO Problem!!
EXACTLY!
:cool:

[Jeep Jeep]

Originally posted by Green Giant:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> So... I just ran over the fence post. NO Problem!!
EXACTLY!
:cool: </font>[/QUOTE];)

[popeye44]

NT? isn't that a version of windows?

:D

[6foot4 again]

wt is a version of windows, also...

...WT = WHY TRY?

...NT = NEVER TOPPED

[jhanson]

I got the NT, cause it has 4 doors to load the kids in back. It would be quite a pain with only two doors.

[6foot4 again]

hee hee hee...

[Rande]

The kids should be nimble enough. Heck, they could probably crawl in through the sliding side window easily enough. It'll be good exercise for them.

[ September 05, 2003, 06:20 PM: Message edited by: Rande ]

[6foot4 again]

yeah, but where y'all going? I don't know why you have 7 people w/ 3 seatbelts. Maybe should've got a 4-door...

[imported_Big Red]

All 4 doors MUST DIE!!! Just kidding!!! Would like one for the ol'lady but she wanted the Golden Eagle J10 instead. Man I Love Her!!!

[6foot4 again]

It's ok, we can fit more people in ours ( legally ) than you guys can...

[PlasticBoob]

Heck I'll say it WT= White Trash!!! :D http://home.off-road.com/~plasticboob/faces/bukkake.gif

Once again, just joking ;) Hey he found it funny: http://home.off-road.com/~plasticboob/faces/clinton_laughing.jpg

[Krunch]

1 vote for nt here!

[Stuka]

I love my NT cherokee. I have fit in some places I doont think my J10 would have fit without smashing the flares in (which i dont want to do because they are so perfect and rust free).

Now as for NT wags...oh they are trouble. No room for trimming or anything. Worthless pieces of junk off road I tell ya! They are the true grovery getters :D

Go Cherokees! :D

[OldGrayGhost]

Originally posted by jeepguzzi:
]NT's came before WT"S, so with no NT"s there would be any WT's. Respect yo' elders!!! tongue.gif [/QUOTE]

Dude!! Check your facts!! 1962 had a Gladiator pick up, right?? Isn't that a wide trac????? :confused: [/QB][/QUOTE]

Yeah I suppose the wider axles existed under other vehicles, ie glad & trucks. I was speaking of the Cherokee lineage. Apologies across the board. :rolleyes: "The Jeep Collector's Guide" does state that as far Cherokees go the WT was an off shoot of the allready popular NT.

[6foot4 again]

chalk up another one for NT....

[Bombadier]

hee-hee, I'm a previous NT owner.... And I'll never look back! ;) ;) :D :D

[Zac]

I have a nt and I am getting ready to put some wt axles in tomorrow. I am gonna have to trim the fenders to the roof!

[6foot4 again]

btt

[flatbackdragon]

Zac- check out the trimming on my WT, not much of a lift but flares were toast so out they went. it's a wonder but those flares really helped out on the stability of the front fenders, bend REAL easy now, stay away from boulders you can't see over the hood, trees laying down where you can't see them, etc. fenders crumple when the stock bumper hits it

[Stuka]

Originally posted by flatbackdragon:
Zac- check out the trimming on my WT, not much of a lift but flares were toast so out they went. it's a wonder but those flares really helped out on the stability of the front fenders, bend REAL easy now, stay away from boulders you can't see over the hood, trees laying down where you can't see them, etc. fenders crumple when the stock bumper hits itGet a bigger bumper :D