Where to lift a motor from?

[fdwyer]

I know it seems like a dumb question, but all my motor experience to date has been with Bikes and Volkswagons. This will be my first time pulling a small block (360) for rebuild.

Can I lift from the head and intake manifold or am I risking damage?

Should I try to lift from the block?

Can anyone give specific places to lift from?

Any other advise would be appreciated!

Thanks much.

Frank

[Snakeyes_Tx]

Well, when I did it the first time, I pulled the intake manifold off and used a thick chain with grade 8 bolts with a buncha washers. I did *not* use the original intake bolts when I pulled it just in case they decided to bend. I used the driver's side rear-most hole and the passenger side near-most front hole and longer bolts with washers on them to make sure it stuck inside the chain link. Take the hood off, it'll make your job 10 times easier.

This time I'm going to rent an engine pulling chain with the metal tabs on the ends so I wont have to take the manifold off and just rest the tab on top of the manifold in the same hole locations and just slightly longer grade 8 bolts again. I would imagine with the tab and it bolted down tight that the load will be equal all around the hole so nothing will be damaged on the manifold.

...anyone can feel free to correct me on the latter idea in case I'm wrong... I'd rather not be the guinea pig to try it if someone else has a horror story! http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/biggrin.gif



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Snakeyes_Tx
86 J-20 "The Rusty Dinosaur"

[BobBarry]

I use a 3/8" chain with 3/8" bolts in the accessory mount holes in the opposite ends of the heads, so it runs diagonally across the top of the motor.

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Bob Barry<UL TYPE=SQUARE>* '78 Cherokee 4-door
* '88 Grand Wagoneer[/list]http://studentweb.providence.edu/~rbarry/wheels/

[porkchop]

I do the same as BobBarry and I have to agree that it is the best method. You can change the tilt of the engine if you need. I have thought about buying one of those plates that go on the intake in place of the carb, It is a lifting eye, but I have not got around to looking for one yet.

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'67/'79 Wagoneer mix
“Old Timer”
Check it out! (http://members.fortunecity.com/porkchopsfsj)

"I have a dream that one day FSJ's will be equal at every parts store."

[UnkleMunky]

A nice online pic of a 360 and a 258 attached this way would be awful darn handy reference....anybody got any? http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/smile.gif

Good input though, as some of us aren't really pros at this stuff....YET! Always helps to hear advice from those who have done the work already!

Michael
'78 J10/'76 J10

[GRAT]

I think porkchop actually removed the grill and all front body work, and he says it made the job very easy.

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79 Chero WT/ TH400 /QT /360 /3" Flowmaster / K&N

78 Chero WT 360 TH400

[Shake N Bake]

Personally, I've got this BEAUTY of a tool I picked up at a local speed shop... Its a big plate with a bunch of holes in it, and a nice heavy duty 'eyelet' (another big plate with a hole in it) that bolts on in place of your carb. Paid like 25$(cdn) for it, Its pulled out 2 amc 360s so far, a gm 6.2TD and a 454, No problems! I wouldn't go back to the good ol fashioned 'find a couple bolts and sling it' method for anything! Engine always sits nice and level, and is really easy to tip and maneuver!



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Andy
Calgary Alberta Canada (Eh!)
closest thing to a website I've got (http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1239185&Auth=false)
79 Wagoneer LTD "Shake N Bake"
360/Th400/QT 4" SuperLift, MSD 6 OffRoad, Big O XT CT 31x10x15s

[UnkleMunky]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shake N Bake:
Personally, I've got this BEAUTY of a tool I picked up at a local speed shop... Its a big plate with a bunch of holes in it, and a nice heavy duty 'eyelet' (another big plate with a hole in it) that bolts on in place of your carb. Paid like 25$(cdn) for it, Its pulled out 2 amc 360s so far, a gm 6.2TD and a 454, No problems! I wouldn't go back to the good ol fashioned 'find a couple bolts and sling it' method for anything! Engine always sits nice and level, and is really easy to tip and maneuver!

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Hey Shake-n-Bake...ya gotta any pics of that puppy in action? Any idea of what it's called? I'm still getting my feet wet in all these transplant areas, so anything to make the job easier is welcome advice.....I'd like to see pics of all these variations....could be a good thing for many of us to see in action!

Thanks....
Michael
'78 J10/'76 J10

[Slippery]

http://www.jegs.com/photos/865903.jpg

It's called an "engine lift plate", available from Jeg's or Summit, 'bout $20. It can also be used as a storage cover to keep flotsam & jetsam out of your carbless engine.

If your engine ingress/egress is really tricky, there's a device called an "engine tilter". It's a horizontal beam with a threaded rod through the center. A hanger bracket rides on the rod, and attaches to the hook on the engine hoist. Turning the rod, via a handcrank, moves the beam fore/aft, changing the engine's position in relation to the hanger (moving it off-center), thus tilting the engine.


EDIT: "Engine Tilter"
http://www.tdperformance.com/td_Image/9099.JPG

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Jason K.
"No FSJ yet, but wait..."


[This message has been edited by Slippery (edited January 11, 2001).]

[UnkleMunky]

Slippery: COOL! Thanks for the images! I've got one of the tilters, but not the plate....that would be one item to add to my arsenal(along with the hoist that I would prefer to by instead of borrow).

Super....really appreciate the info!

Michael
'78 J10/'76 J10