J Truck owners I need your help with tech info

[River Beast]

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/RiverBeast/j20hanger.jpg

*** THIS INFO IS NEEDED FOR 76 AND NEWER J TRUCKS ONLY***

Above is a pic of a J20 front hanger for the rear spring...not ALL J trucks have this particular mount, but I need to identify which J trucks have this particular mount as my kits WILL NOT WORK with it... in the the near future, I will be designing a kit for this mount if a volunteer that is close to San Diego is willing.. ;)

Please help me identify the years and models these mount were used in and on... IE year/ J10 or J20 and shortbed or longbed.

I was under the impression these mounts were used in the 70's on the camper edtion J20's but I need to ensure on all years/makes/models.

So... if you have this mount on you J Truck... please post with the appropriate info... thanks ;)

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LIST OF KNOWN J TRUCKS WITH ANGLED MOUNTS

76 J20 longbed
77 J10 longbed
77 J20 longbed
86 J20 longbed

[ January 23, 2004, 09:15 AM: Message edited by: River Beast ]

[Gawdzilla.]

NOT the setup on my 74 FWIW.

[River Beast]

Ed,

my apologies... this is meant for 76 and newer J Trucks... editing my above post... thanks

[Gawdzilla.]

no problem. smile.gif no apology necessary.
hope you're lovin Dego- I'm jealous. Love that place.

[carrotman]

I have a Chief, but my 76 TSM shows the frame of the 131 inch wheelbase having that mount on the rise of the frame. It also says the horizontal distance between the front and rear mounts is 56.47 inches, while the 119 wheelbase is 57.22. The 119 front mount is before the rise so it's slightly longer.

[J10/J20 Project]

Mine 78 J10 look's like it is on the flatter part of the frame just before that. I'll have a pic up later.

[ January 22, 2004, 11:22 PM: Message edited by: J10/J20 Project ]

[River Beast]

Sounds like this is just on the longbeds then.. but I need to be sure....

thanks for the tech info Carrotman...

Paul,

is your 78 a shortbed?

Keep the info comin!! :D

[ January 23, 2004, 12:03 AM: Message edited by: River Beast ]

[CowKiller]

mine didnt have that if i remember right. mine was j10 longbed.

[J20]

My 82 J20 doesnt have that setup. I have the regular chev/ford mount upside down "U".

[janie]

Todd:

As soon as we get some daylight here, I'll check. Pretty sure tho, Peso doesn't have this and she's a shortbed.

Janie

79 J-10 "Peso"
360 TH400
Rust...going away

[The Anti-Chrysler]

Originally posted by River Beast:
http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/RiverBeast/j20hanger.jpg

*** THIS INFO IS NEEDED FOR 76 AND NEWER J TRUCKS ONLY***

Above is a pic of a J20 front hanger for the rear spring...not ALL J trucks have this particular mount, but I need to identify which J trucks have this particular mount as my kits WILL NOT WORK with it... in the the near future, I will be designing a kit for this mount if a volunteer that is close to San Diego is willing.. ;)

Please help me identify the years and models these mount were used in and on... IE year/ J10 or J20 and shortbed or longbed.

I was under the impression these mounts were used in the 70's on the camper edtion J20's but I need to ensure on all years/makes/models.

So... if you have this mount on you J Truck... please post with the appropriate info... thanks ;) Doesn't look like any of the '79 to '84 J10's I've had/seen. I would bet it's LWB only, and as far as I've heard, the LWB J10 and J20 share the same frame. Hollander lists J10 springs crossing over to Cheros/Wags, however it lists J20/J10 LWB springs by themselves.

Did that frame come from Connecticut??? :eek: :eek: smile.gif

[J10Mike]

my 82 j10 does NOT have that setup.

[Stuka]

My 81 J10 has the mount flat up and down like box mount wags/cheros. I see your kit working fine on my J10. That mount is funky looking, never seen one like it.

[River Beast]

Jason,

This pic was sent to me by one of our members a while back and I kept it for good reason.... ;)

So far, I have two known suspect vehicles... ;)

Keep it coming guys....

**** I NEED A VOLUNTEER (LAB RAT) CLOSE TO SAN DIEGO WITH THIS SETUP... ANY TAKERS? ****

[ January 23, 2004, 07:57 AM: Message edited by: River Beast ]

[tgreese]

My truck has them.

[River Beast]

Originally posted by tgreese:
My truck has them.I take it from you avatar that its a longbed... thanks!!!

[tgreese]

Yeah - isn't model 45 a long bed? I thought that it's 25, 45, 46 - J10 SWB, J10 LWB, J20.

[River Beast]

you could be right.. but I am no J Truck guru... ;)

[J20 project]

I believe one of the first places you saw this was on my truck at the invasion Todd, Remember?
Bud

[J4GRAND]

25, 45, 46 were just weight desciptions. Mine's a long bed J4500 1/2 ton or used to be. Don't know if there were any short bed heavy 1/2 tons after 73. Before 74, there were J2600s that were heavy half short beds.

[River Beast]

Originally posted by J20 project:
I believe one of the first places you saw this was on my truck at the invasion Todd, Remember?
BudYep.. I remember, Bud.... ;)

[HOOT-N-JEEPS]

76 J10 swb NO
79 J10 swb NO
81 J20 BINGO !!!! ( they also hold about 5 lbs. of mud for your gardening projects back home)

[Gramcracker]

I don't mean to rain on your party, but my 83 J10 does have the box mount. It is the 109 wheelbase. Try to post pics now....
:rolleyes: http://www.fsjworld.com/showownerpic.asp?u=3515&n=79506&pos=1&album=6832.

Hope this works...I've only had the truck for a month and its been cold as **LL here. Soon as it warms up I have a list of issues to address...LOL

[ January 23, 2004, 03:29 PM: Message edited by: Gramcracker ]

[mark barton]

MY 1980 AND 1984 J-20 HAVE THOSE MOUNTS ON THEM.

IS ANYONE MAKING A DROP LIFT KIT FOR THE FULL SIZE JEEPS LIKE I SEE ON EBAY FOR THE FORDS?

THEY JUST DROP THE LEAF SPRING MOUNTS LOWER TO ADD A LIFT TO THE TRUCK,I THINK THEY ARE FOR THE FRONT OF THE TRUCK ONLY.

[J10/J20 Project]

Originally posted by River Beast:
Paul,
is your 78 a shortbed? :D Yes, You want detailed pics?

[ January 23, 2004, 05:22 PM: Message edited by: J10/J20 Project ]

[Elliott]

Todd,
When I bought that parts J20 I was told it was a '77, however, it has the ears on the front of the frame for the bumper mount so despite the ugly color of the body I believe the truck was at least a '79 (if that matters at all).
I would think the SWB would neccessarily be mounted in the standard manner as the springs locate further foward and on the straight (vs curved) section of the frame. I'll have to check out Gramcracker's pics.

[Stuka]

Hey todd, here is a pict of the mounts on my 81 short bed J10.

Dont mind all the sand, its from the roads (I will take it over salt anyday :D )

http://stuka.gograywolf.com/ifsja/j10-stuff/j10-spring-mount.jpg

Here is a closer one also:

http://stuka.gograywolf.com/ifsja/j10-stuff/j10-spring-mount2.jpg

[ January 23, 2004, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: Stuka ]

[Elliott]

Originally posted by Gramcracker:
I don't mean to rain on your party, but my 83 J10 does have the box mount. It is the 109 wheelbase. Try to post pics now....
:rolleyes: http://www.fsjworld.com/showownerpic.asp?u=3515&n=79506&pos=1&album=6832.

Hope this works...I've only had the truck for a month and its been cold as **LL here. Soon as it warms up I have a list of issues to address...LOLYour's are on the flat, not the curved part of the frame. If you look at the pic Todd posted the bottom of the box is not paralell to the bottom of the frame, but follows the radius of the curve.

[The Anti-Chrysler]

Yup, those on his '83 are definitely the same as the rest of the J10's. I'm betting its a LWB thing.

[ColeTrickle]

Hmmm...Todd, aren't you busy? ;)

BTW, mine are like Brandon's.

Sorry, I can get ya any pics right now I'm at work.

[viscacha]

Here’s my hanger Todd. I will get you the pics of the rear tomorrow. It’s actually raining in Picture Rocks right now, heavily. You can see it’s just like your pic.

My truck is an ’86 J20, model 27, body style 12PU, Townside. :cool:


http://www.dakotacom.net/~jeepster/j20154.jpg

[J20 project]

Hey Cole, Yep he's busy trying to figure out how to pay for that new bambino. He needs to get another product out there to help.. Belly up Jtruck boys.(grin)
J20

[JeepsAndGuns]

I have a 79 longbed J-10 parts truck that has that setup.

[mdill]

Ok , from the parts book
81/ 10-25 #8126850
81/ Left - 26 27 #8126851
81/ Right - 26 27 #8126852

10 - Wag-Cherkee
25 -109" J10
26 -131" J10
27 -131" J20

So all 81 and up (atleast to 86 where my book ends)
long bed J series had them.
(Could be below 81 to but to lazy to go look)

Short bed used the same part left to right and also
the same as the Wagoneer/Cheokees.

And yes indeed , long bed trucks used a different
part # rear spring than the short bed , which used the
same springs as the Wag/Cherokees

[mdill]

Looks like 76 - to end of life for that part
on all long bed pickups J10 and J20.

(I checked the other book)

Mike D.

[Frank in Norway]

My '77 J20 has the setup in your picture Todd.

[douglas king]

my 79 j10 shortbed has the same setup as pictured

[Stuka]

which picture?

[M1Garandfan]

My 78 J10 longbed has them, I can send picts that are not rusted if I can find my Dang cable!

[River Beast]

Originally posted by Gramcracker:
I don't mean to rain on your party, but my 83 J10 does have the box mount. It is the 109 wheelbase. Try to post pics now....
:rolleyes: http://www.fsjworld.com/showownerpic.asp?u=3515&n=79506&pos=1&album=6832.

Those mounts are flat on the frame... I make a kit for those.... its the angled mounts that I am researching... thanks though...
Hope this works...I've only had the truck for a month and its been cold as **LL here. Soon as it warms up I have a list of issues to address...LOL Originally posted by mark barton:
MY 1980 AND 1984 J-20 HAVE THOSE MOUNTS ON THEM.

IS ANYONE MAKING A DROP LIFT KIT FOR THE FULL SIZE JEEPS LIKE I SEE ON EBAY FOR THE FORDS?

THEY JUST DROP THE LEAF SPRING MOUNTS LOWER TO ADD A LIFT TO THE TRUCK,I THINK THEY ARE FOR THE FRONT OF THE TRUCK ONLY.Mark,

I make a rear shackle inversion kit for 76-91 FSJ's... well... most of them except the LWB.. for now... I have a volunteer that will donate his J20 to the cause... so be patient and I will be up and running with these LWB kits no later than March... :D

[River Beast]

Guys... you are my saving grace.... I appreciate everyone's input on this.... you have helped me more than you know...

I have it now...

76-86 J10/J20 Longbeds have the angled mounts

Thank you all sooo much....

Originally posted by AZ J20:
Here’s my hanger Todd. I will get you the pics of the rear tomorrow. It’s actually raining in Picture Rocks right now, heavily. You can see it’s just like your pic.

My truck is an ’86 J20, model 27, body style 12PU, Townside. :cool:


http://www.dakotacom.net/~jeepster/j20154.jpgSteve,

YEP!!! thats it... we will coordinate and get this kit designed very soon....

For all that are interested in the LWB kit,

Please allow me some time to get this thing designed and tested... then the market will be open soon thereafter...

IF ANY ARE INTERESTED TO BE ON THE FIRST PRODUCTION LINE AFTER TESTING>>> LET ME KNOW AND I WILL CONTACT YOU WHEN PRODCUTION IS ABOUT TO START....

thanks

[Elliott]

Just a suggestion Todd, but since it's still in the design mode you might want to consider building those brackets in a way that they mount the springs at the correct height but could be mounted in either the factory width locations or inboarded under the frame 3/4-1" per side. I set mine up that way to allow the springs to clear the brake drum backing plates on the C14 that I did not intend to swap out for discs.
Just a thought, it's nice to have the option and would make the kit a lil more versatile.

[River Beast]

Elliot,

I will look into this when I get started on the design.... may decide to make and optional kit if its a high enuf demand for it....

[R Kriz]

Hi, I have a 1985 J-10 longbed and my forward spring mount in the rear is exactly as shown in your photograph. Good luck on your project
Roger Kriz
kriz@rci.rutgers.edu
Somerset, New Jersey

[427CometGuy]

Todd,

Both my 77 J10 longbeds have exactly the same hangers.

Dave