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crazandy
02-18-2004, 02:40 PM
The carb (2150) on the J3000 is leaking pretty bad (fuel at the front) and I'm not in the mood to rebuild it with all the crap I'm doing to my CJ at the moment. So I'd like to get a remaned one from autozone, but I'm not sure which one to get. They list two, and I don't know the differences between the two.
Does anyone know what the differences between the two are other than price?
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tgreese
02-18-2004, 02:49 PM
They're the same original equipment manufacturer (OEM) numbers, so take your pick. Tomco is a brand name - I assume that Champion is too. Rochester is the manufacturer of the carb, and 2GV is the type of carb.
illegalFSJ
02-18-2004, 02:53 PM
Please, please, please don't buy a remanufactured carburetor. It's a very easy way to induce a large amount of pain and suffering into your jeeping life.
If your carb needs rebuilding and you don't want to do the work, just find someone locally who rebuilds carburetors. There's probably a listing or two in the yellow pages. If not, call a few shops and find out who they have rebuild their carbs, or if they have a good tech who can do 'em.
It will cost about the same and you'll get a quality rebuild rather than a the junk re-man you can buy at the parts store. I just had a toyota truck carb overhauled. Final cost: $139. Works perfectly and I've found about 1 in 10 re-man carbs that you could say the same for.
crazandy
02-18-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by illegalFSJ:
Please, please, please don't buy a remanufactured carburetor. It's a very easy way to induce a large amount of pain and suffering into your jeeping life.
If your carb needs rebuilding and you don't want to do the work, just find someone locally who rebuilds carburetors. There's probably a listing or two in the yellow pages. If not, call a few shops and find out who they have rebuild their carbs, or if they have a good tech who can do 'em.
It will cost about the same and you'll get a quality rebuild rather than a the junk re-man you can buy at the parts store. I just had a toyota truck carb overhauled. Final cost: $139. Works perfectly and I've found about 1 in 10 re-man carbs that you could say the same for.Well, the MC 2150 that is on it is a 1.08 venturi and I'm not sure if thats big enough for the 327, because when you cruise on the highway the carb makes a nasty high pitched humming noise unless you give it gas, or put in the clutch. That or it could be because it needs rebuilding badly.
illegalFSJ
02-18-2004, 02:59 PM
I don't know what you mean by 1.08 venturi, but I know that the MC2150 came stock on most FSJs with 360s, and it did pretty well with that amount of CID.
crazandy
02-18-2004, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by illegalFSJ:
I don't know what you mean by 1.08 venturi, but I know that the MC2150 came stock on most FSJs with 360s, and it did pretty well with that amount of CID.I'm pretty sure the ones that came on the 360s had a 1.21 venturi... didn't they?
illegalFSJ
02-18-2004, 03:07 PM
Are you sure you have a MC2150 on there? Is that what came stock? The page you copied from Autozone shows two rochester carburetors. Isn't the rochester 2gv a GM carburetor? Maybe it's supposed to have a Rochester? Even if you ordered one of those it would be very different from a Motorcraft carburetor, which is what you're saying that you have on there now.
crazandy
02-18-2004, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by illegalFSJ:
Are you sure you have a MC2150 on there? Is that what came stock? The page you copied from Autozone shows two rochester carburetors. Isn't the rochester 2gv a GM carburetor? Maybe it's supposed to have a Rochester? Even if you ordered one of those it would be very different from a Motorcraft carburetor, which is what you're saying that you have on there now.I'm 100% positive I have a 2150 on there. The PO took off whatever carb was on it when he got it and put the 2150 on there. I have no idea what was stock on the 327.
This is another reason I want to get a remaned one instead of rebuilding the 2150. I want to try to keep the truck as stock as possible.
illegalFSJ
02-18-2004, 03:14 PM
I see your point now, but I'd still recommend finding a good used one, or having an original one rebuilt rather than buying the re-manufactured junk. I'll bet someone on the board has a 327 carb they'd be happy to sell you.
The stock 2v carb on the 327's were the Holley 2209's. Venturi dia. 1.03"
The venturi size on the later MC2150's is 1.08" so a 2150 is plenty of carb for the 327.
[ February 19, 2004, 01:41 AM: Message edited by: -joe ]
crazandy
02-19-2004, 01:28 AM
Well, it looks like autozone screwed up. Napa shows a Holley carb for the 327 and a Rochester for the 350.
Now I'm not sure what to do...
I don't know of any good shops around here that I could take the truck with the 2150 to to get rebuilt and tuned.
EDIT - I just tried a 66 J truck with 327 and 2 barrel and they come up with the Holley 2209, but they don't have a price. And Napa wants 209+50 core which I'm not going to do.
Where would I start to look for a shop to rebuild my 2150?
Also, does anyone know why it makes a humming noise?
[ February 19, 2004, 08:32 AM: Message edited by: crazandy ]
crazandy
02-19-2004, 01:29 AM
Oh, and I found some good information about what carbs what AMC engines had.
http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Kamc2.htm
The 2150 isn't hard to rebuild. I would go that route before buying a chain store rebuild. There is a really good write up from Michael Baxter on the 2150 in this sites Tech Library. Also look at http://home.earthlink.net/~bubbaf250/2150carb/carb01.html before dropping bucks on a chain store carb.
the rochester is stock for the 350. i would try and find a holley to match, but the MC2150 should work also if you want to have it rebuilt.
The PIG Smith
03-15-2004, 12:04 PM
How hard is a 4 barrel intake to find for a Kaiser 327?
Were these 4 BBL intakes square bore and would except a modern AFB/Edelbrock carb?
[ March 15, 2004, 07:23 PM: Message edited by: The PIG Smith ]
Elliott
03-15-2004, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by The PIG Smith:
Hard is a 4 barrel intake to find for a Kaiser 327?
Were these 4 BBL intakes square bore and would except a modern AFB/Edelbrock carb?Ha, good luck. I guess they are out there and think I saw a picture of one somewhere (don't hold me too that, I think it was a spread bore). Someone will sober me up if I'm crocked... :D
More likely to be found on a Rambler car I'm sure.
[ March 15, 2004, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Elliott ]
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