PTO

[Cecil14]

Ok, I'm fairly ignorant here, so help me out please. I know that a PTO can run off either the tranny or x-case, depending on which you happen to have, but what I don't know is what it really does. I know you can use them for things like winches, but what else? Are they like a hydrolic pump or something?

Thanks,
Anthony

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1983 J-10 resto project
1979 J-10 parts rig
http://fsjeep.homestead.com/files/Hosted_Pix/Cecil14_Jeep.jpg

[Slippery]

A PTO is simply a gearbox that transfers engine power from the tranny or xfer (whichever it's installed on), through a gearbox (for gear reduction and to change direction), and to an output shaft. It can be used to run anything you would use an engine or electric motor to run--hydraulics, winch, lawnmower deck, snowblower, pasta machine, etc.

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Jason K.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/e46e6dee/bc/My+Photos/Festiva.jpg?bcw0GX7Ax3rIxilV
'88 Ford Festiva
40mpg work car
Cost $150, paid for itself already
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'90 Chevy Lumina
Biggest POS in the 115-year history of the automobile
4 cylinders, less than adequate for a car half its size
Crappy rear disc brakes, $19M class-action lawsuit settled
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Some other junk not worth mentioning

[scotty]

http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/biggrin.gif lol(again) ive now got a mental picture of that guy you see on infomercials outside with his truck running,tossing ingredients into a huge,industrial size pasta machine...

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scott
85 grand wagoneer
258 with motorcraft 2bbl/t18/spicer 18 with pto/widetrac offset d44s/rear discs
38x15.5 gumbo mudders
snorkel/dual batteries/onboard air/"custom" convertable
3 inch body lift/mostly stock suspension/"modified" fender openings
custom front/rear bumpers and brushgaurd

vw turing brake,BIG tow truck PTO winch and full roll cage install very soon
4.0 aquired-4.5L stroker someday...

now we can do some 'wheelin!

[Slippery]

What, like "Ron-Popeil-meets-Tim-Allen"? Sounds more like you! http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/wink.gif

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Jason K.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/e46e6dee/bc/My+Photos/Festiva.jpg?bcw0GX7Ax3rIxilV
'88 Ford Festiva
40mpg work car
Cost $150, paid for itself already
-----------------------------
'90 Chevy Lumina
Biggest POS in the 115-year history of the automobile
4 cylinders, less than adequate for a car half its size
Crappy rear disc brakes, $19M class-action lawsuit settled
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Some other junk not worth mentioning

[Cecil14]

Hehe, well, guess I'll have to look into a good sized pasta machine then. http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/smile.gif
Is the winch that came stock on these rigs any good? Can I run any other winch off a PTO?

Thanks,
Anthony

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1983 J-10 resto project
1979 J-10 parts rig
http://fsjeep.homestead.com/files/Hosted_Pix/Cecil14_Jeep.jpg

[Crazy_Jeepman]

you can run a driveshaft to the front bumper and mount a PTO winch. You could power a saw about anything you could dream up. By the way the one on the T18 I have has a reverse in the PTO it will run in both directions.

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1970 Wagoneer! Dauntless 350/Th 400/D20/44s. Posi In My Rear. Currently Getting A Frame Off Restore, And a Few Mods. The To Do List Is Longer Than The Wagoneer Is!!!!
http://images.andale.com/f2/116/106/4651773/990532060948_sigjeep.JPG

[Cecil14]

Ok, thanks for the info guys. Now I've got a lot better idea at what I'm looking at.

Crazy_Jeepman: You don't happen to have the driveshaft and the winch do you? http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/biggrin.gif



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1983 J-10 resto project
1979 J-10 parts rig
http://fsjeep.homestead.com/files/Hosted_Pix/Cecil14_Jeep.jpg

[Crazy_Jeepman]

nope I do not have that never did actualy it had a hydraulic pump on it for the plow that is sold now

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1970 Wagoneer! Dauntless 350/Th 400/D20/44s. Posi In My Rear. Currently Getting A Frame Off Restore, And a Few Mods. The To Do List Is Longer Than The Wagoneer Is!!!!
http://images.andale.com/f2/116/106/4651773/990532060948_sigjeep.JPG

[Cecil14]

Well, nothing's perfect I guess. How good were the stock winches anyway? Would it be feesable to look for a stock one or just get a new one? How were they mounted? Behind the bumper somewhere?

Thanks for looking at all my questions.
Anthony

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1983 J-10 resto project
1979 J-10 parts rig
http://fsjeep.homestead.com/files/Hosted_Pix/Cecil14_Jeep.jpg

[Crazy_Jeepman]

I have seen many types of configuration as far as mounting them. I always liked PTO winches as I used to drive Tow Truck and that is what I ran on them was PTO winches. then we ran Hydraulic winches of a PTO driven Pump I do believe that to be the best setup yet but BIG $$$$$$. By the way Cecil14 Anthony what weekend did you say you were heading up I forgot and I want to be sure I do not plan something and not be here.

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1970 Wagoneer! Dauntless 350/Th 400/D20/44s. Posi In My Rear. Currently Getting A Frame Off Restore, And a Few Mods. The To Do List Is Longer Than The Wagoneer Is!!!!
http://images.andale.com/f2/116/106/4651773/990532060948_sigjeep.JPG

[Cecil14]

I was planning on coming up next weekend, the weekend of the 30th and the 1st. Let me know if this isn't good for you. I was planning on coming up Sat morning some time and then staying the night and coming back sometime on Sunday.

Thanks,
Anthony

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1983 J-10 resto project
1979 J-10 parts rig
http://fsjeep.homestead.com/files/Hosted_Pix/Cecil14_Jeep.jpg

[Crazy_Jeepman]

That will be fine I will be sure not to go anywhere, However I do not get home from work much before noon on Sat. So keep that in mind.

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1970 Wagoneer! Dauntless 350/Th 400/D20/44s. Posi In My Rear. Currently Getting A Frame Off Restore, And a Few Mods. The To Do List Is Longer Than The Wagoneer Is!!!!
http://images.andale.com/f2/116/106/4651773/990532060948_sigjeep.JPG

[Cecil14]

I'm not too worried about getting there before noon. Hehehe, it's probably going to take me 7 or 8 hours to get there anyway, so even if I leave at like 8AM, it's going to 4 before I get there. http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/biggrin.gif I'll give you a call when we get somewhere near the bridge. Can you email me you # one more time, must have deleted it, gotta start watching that.

Thanks,
Anthony

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1983 J-10 resto project
1979 J-10 parts rig
http://fsjeep.homestead.com/files/Hosted_Pix/Cecil14_Jeep.jpg

[Coley]

Is this a PTO winch on this cherokee? Anyone got any pics of the whole setup?
How do you run this kind of winch, don't see any levers or switches.
http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/81-chero.jpg

Just curious. This chero is supercool.

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Daddy's Ice Cream Truck (3 yr old daugter named it)
360 727 NP229
Fix one thing, break two

Will dance for parts

[Shake N Bake]

That would be one of the OEM Electric winches (think it was a ramsey (someone correct me if i'm wrong) similar operation to all the electric winches...

Andy


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Andy
Calgary Alberta Canada (Eh!)
My webpage (http://members.home.net/msquito1)
79 Wagoneer LTD "Shake N Bake"
360/Th400/QT 4" SuperLift, MSD 6 OffRoad, Big O XT CT 30x8x15s

[J20 project]

Definitely electric, might have been a sidewinder as neatly as it's tucked in there.

J20