throttle cable job completed, but spare parts!

[chrisfa1]

Hello all,

I put a new accelerator cable in my Grand Wagoneer, 258 motor. But, somehow in the process a spring came off, and I don't know where the heck it goes!

Here's a link to some pictures. The first one shows the springs that are still on there. The 2nd one shows the spare spring, next to a ruler (so you can see how long it is)
http://home.socal.rr.com/falin/jeep2.html

thanks!

[The Anti-Chrysler]

Looks like a throttle return spring. Don't forget alot of times smaller return springs will go inside the larger return springs. smile.gif

[ January 30, 2004, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: The Anti-Chrysler ]

[chrisfa1]

ok, where would that attach then?

[chrisfa1]

btt -- need more help please

[Santa Claus]

Could also be throttle pressure spring. If so it will go on the linkage going to transmission.

[chrisfa1]

that sounds about right. I found it under the car when i was reattaching stuff. so, where on ther linkage does it go?

[chrisfa1]

that sounds about right. I found it under the car when i was reattaching stuff. so, where on ther linkage does it go?

[chrisfa1]

that sounds about right. I found it under the car when i was reattaching stuff. so, where on ther linkage does it go?

[chrisfa1]

well, i put it on there but don't know if i did it right.

seems like the truck upshifts too soon....it was in 3rd gear at like 25mph. and it won't go into passing gear when i floor it.

is that weird? is that related to this spring.

[Jlamb]

It really does appear to be a return spring. Some times I have seen two springs in diffrent locations used for the same reason. Now your shifting issue. Did you hood, up the kick down cable? Make sure it is hooked up in the tranny as well. I have done it more that once, where I go and play with the carb, and I knock off the cable at the tranny.

Spare parts tell you that you just did a job well done. :D :D

[chrisfa1]

thanks justin,

I just still can't figure out where it would go. I mean, there are two throttle return spring still hooked up.

And, on the shifting thing, there's definitly a problem. It never downshifts on it's own, unless I stop. Today, I drove it about 100 miles and pretty much had to shift it myself.

So, I gotta think this spring is related. I know I hooked up all the cbles and rods. I can check again but I really think it's ok.

[chrisfa1]

thanks justin,

I just still can't figure out where it would go. I mean, there are two throttle return spring still hooked up.

And, on the shifting thing, there's definitly a problem. It never downshifts on it's own, unless I stop. Today, I drove it about 100 miles and pretty much had to shift it myself.

So, I gotta think this spring is related. I know I hooked up all the cbles and rods. I can check again but I really think it's ok.

[Max Power]

I'm not at home now so I cant look at my jeep or TSM, but if its not shifting right Its probably b/c the rod that connects the throttle to the tranny is no longer connected. I cant remember the correct name right now, but for example when you floor the accelator, this connecting rod makes the tranny downshift... hopefully someone else will chime in w/ the correct terms.

[chrisfa1]

yeah, i know the rod you're talking about. and it's loose (the rubben grommet is all dried up) but it's still connected, unless i drove over a big bump and bumped it out.

can i get those rubber grommets?

[oldyellowwagoneer]

The spring attaches to a tab on the firewall and connects to the trans kickdown linkage. It will pull the rod back toward the firewall. If you don't have this hooked up you will damage your transmission. Dennis

[chrisfa1]

ok thanks. It hasn't been this way long. I drove it like 150 miles, mostly freeway, shifting it by hand on the surface streets.

I'll go out and put the spring in the right place now

[chrisfa1]

Well, I went out there and I'm even more confused now than before. I still can't find where this thing attaches. I looked at my Haynes manual, and it didn't help me....it's using terms I don't understand...refering to parts that, I don't know what they are.

Guess it's time to take it in to my mechanic on this one.

[tgreese]

Chris, don't panic (yet).

I don't know what the downshift linkage looks like specifically, but it's function is simple. When you mash the accelerator pedal to the floor, the linkage conveys that information ("throttle wide open") to the automatic transmission. If the linkage is still connected at the carburetor, it should be clear whether the cable/rod/whatever pushes or pulls on the lever on the transmission. Wide open throttle = downshift, part open throttle = cruise.

The normal state is cruising along, so that's the direction the spring should pull the linkage when the throttle is closed (ie foot off the accelerator pedal). The spring can only pull on the linkage, so there must be a place for it to attach on the linkage and on some stationary part of the jeep so that it pulls the linkage into its cruising position.

You're just going to have to look at it and figure it out ... either that or someone with an '81 or later Wagon with a 258 will have describe or post a picture.

hth :cool: Tim