fix the alt or wirring bypass?

[Bahamut]

ok i recently melted the "boots" off both wires that hook to the ammeter never touched the insilation though

my amp guage reads 30 charge all the time with my delco
but dead 0 all the time with my motorola
or it will show drain but never a charge

why??????

is one toast are the both toast?
am i going insane?

should i put the delco back and modify the harness?

please help me before i go mad

good news though i got my motorcraft ingintion box from dean (almost like it was a xmas pressent) now i just need a distrib and some wire and i can do the boyd truck upgrade.

but i want the alt thing fixed/replaced/repared/removed/upgraded/ETC....


can you still buy parts for a delco? i am sure i can rebuild it

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The Beast
1975 Jeep Wagoneer
Bald Tires
Old 360 4v
TH400 (doesen't leak anymore kinda makes me worry i didn't fix it)
BWQT W/Reduction unit custom shifter
MUD MASTER
Delco Alternator(riged mounts)
Slightly Saggin Springs
Good Sound system
Parts Killer
my web page (http://www.geocities.com/bahamut_master/jeeps.html)


If ya break it slap it with a welder and see if that works

[andy d]

borrow a voltmeter and check the system at the battery. the delcos have an internal regulator.napa sells a rebuild kit iirc. i wouldnt get too excited about what the gauges read, especially with fried wires. the motorola was the original? you went withthe delco,(later model) it showing 30 amps. whats wrong with that?

[PAJEEPER]

Keep the delco the motorola is junk. You can rebuild the delco or buy whole new ones which are pretty cheap. You can even rebuild it with higher output. Its easy to wire in the delco too. Sounds like somethings wrong with your ammeter after you fix the alt and see what it does. If it still doesnt work get a new one and try it.

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Greg

'81 J10
258,727,208
custom bumpers 4" pipe f,square tube r.
Yellow powdercoated wheels.

'77 J20
360 4BBL,400,Q-trac.
Heavy duty steel flatbed.
Currently under construction with new frame.

[Bahamut]

could the ammeter be bad?

and the motorola currently works perfect

when i melted the wires it was with the delco
from a cold stop it took about 8 miles at 60+ for the wires to start smoking again with the delco with the motorolla i cant smoke the wires


about how much to rebuild a delco?

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The Beast
1975 Jeep Wagoneer
Bald Tires
Old 360 4v
TH400 (doesen't leak anymore kinda makes me worry i didn't fix it)
BWQT W/Reduction unit custom shifter
MUD MASTER
Delco Alternator(riged mounts)
Slightly Saggin Springs
Good Sound system
Parts Killer
my web page (http://www.geocities.com/bahamut_master/jeeps.html)


If ya break it slap it with a welder and see if that works

[PAJEEPER]

Hmmmm..sounds like the delco is putting out more than the original wires for the motorola can stand. Trace your wires and run a good 10 guage bat wire and the rest could be 14. Here is some prices for the delco kit from JC Whitney.

stock rebuild: $12.95
bearing kit: $6.95

one wire conversion rebuild kits
stock output: $21.95
80 amp: $31.95
105 amp: $41.95

I would go with the one wire kit and upgrade the amps.

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Greg

'81 J10
258,727,208
custom bumpers 4" pipe f,square tube r.
Yellow powdercoated wheels.

'77 J20
360 4BBL,400,Q-trac.
Heavy duty steel flatbed.
Currently under construction with new frame.

[Bahamut]

it is a one wire delco and ir cost me $135
for a 60 amp my motorolla is 51 amp

could the wire still be to weak?

can i just run the alt wire directly to the bat?


i hate trying to figure this crap out

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The Beast
1975 Jeep Wagoneer
Bald Tires
Old 360 4v
TH400 (doesen't leak anymore kinda makes me worry i didn't fix it)
BWQT W/Reduction unit custom shifter
MUD MASTER
Delco Alternator(riged mounts)
Slightly Saggin Springs
Good Sound system
Parts Killer
my web page (http://www.geocities.com/bahamut_master/jeeps.html)


If ya break it slap it with a welder and see if that works

[PAJEEPER]

Yeah you could probably run it directly to the battery. It would then bypass your ammeter. That would probably be a better system since then your power doesnt need to go through the ammeter first. If the ammeter should fail you have no power. I've heard that volt meters are better because they dont have an effect on the whole system like the ammeter if they fail.

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Greg

'81 J10
258,727,208
custom bumpers 4" pipe f,square tube r.
Yellow powdercoated wheels.

'77 J20
360 4BBL,400,Q-trac.
Heavy duty steel flatbed.
Currently under construction with new frame.

[reddog]

I would say that you want the delco alt as it is a better unit. My question would be is the charge at 30 amps all the time?? If so I would think that is a problem that need to be resolved before you decide to bypass the gauge. Replacing the wire to the gauge with a heavier wire along with soldering the connections would be a good idea. The gauge and the wiring should be able to handle 30 amp while the battery is brought back up to full charge after starting etc., but if it is charging that high all the time you need to resolve that issue. JMHO


Also what is the Boyd Truck upgrade??

Kerry

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87 GW - Stock (but it looks like RiverBeast when I'm sleeping)
TFI upgrade
360,727,NP229

[Bahamut]

yes i know i need to fix the delco and hope to have the $$$ to do it soon


boyd truck upgrade

starting with motorcraft distrib and ignition module add TFI coil and the large cap adaptor instant better ignition

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The Beast
1975 Jeep Wagoneer
Bald Tires
Old 360 4v
TH400 (doesen't leak anymore kinda makes me worry i didn't fix it)
BWQT W/Reduction unit custom shifter
MUD MASTER
Delco Alternator(riged mounts)
Slightly Saggin Springs
Good Sound system
Parts Killer
my web page (http://www.geocities.com/bahamut_master/jeeps.html)


If ya break it slap it with a welder and see if that works

[Dave _S]

Well for an alternative point of view. Why not just keep the electrical system original. You can get a lifetime warranty 60 amp Motorola alternator from Pepboys for $40 and Ford external voltage regulators are cheap and easy to replace. This stuff works well and you don't have to rewire or hassle with anything. Also I wouldn't worry about the ammeter. Ammeters break about once every 30 years. Besides if the ammeter does break, just run a jumper from the alternator output to the battery side of the starter relay and you will get home just fine. Alternatively, you can pull the instrument cluster and bypass the ammeter by attaching both ammeter wires to one terminal and you would also get home fine. I would stick with the stock system. There are enough problems with these rigs without creating extra hassles. Just my two cents worth.