Snorkel + window

[Shake N Bake]

Hey folks!

Was working on the jeep today, had a question, and a request for comments!

First off, the drivers side window. Mine wouldn't roll up/down by the crank, so took the door apart, found the arm was actually rubbing the glass. That was easy enough to get back under, but I'm curious, shouldn't the arm be attached to the window somehow? It seems that there is just a spring, a washer that just 'roll' along the bottom of the glass. Its nice that I can at least roll the window up now, but its no fun having to push it back down, somehow that seems wrong... I greased up the tracks as best I could (that front one is a royal PAIN to grease! But that didn't help at all... Any suggestions?

Secondly, I'm working on building a Snorkel for my jeep. Here's my plan, 3" PVC (maybe Steel for the first part) I'm going to go through the inner fender (right above the shock tower, but as high up as humanly possible) then through the outer fender, to a 90, down the side of the fender, then up the A Pillar. I'm going to keep the OEM air cleaner, with modifications (lots of silicone, a bolt to replace the wing nut, and removal/welding up the heat exchanger) My real question lies at the top...

Should I put on the standard forward intake? It would seem that on the highway it should offer something of a Ram-Air effect. My concern with this setup, is that, on my last few trips into the bush, I've gotten more mud on my jeep following people, than I could ever put on myself, seems like that intake would probably toss some of that mud/water down my snorkel and almost defeat the purpose.

A friend suggested a Rearward intake to prevent that, I'm not sure that would be better...

Third thought is the 'Up over and down' style. More or less a 3" pipe with a cover on and above it.

So what do the techies here think? Is the ram-air worth the risk? (Of course I prefer the looks of the forward facing intake too...)

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Andy
79 Wagoneer LTD "Shake N Bake"
Calgary Alberta Canada (Eh!)


[This message has been edited by Shake N Bake (edited December 27, 2000).]

[ClarkGriswald]

This is just an idea but Ive long been thinking about the snorkels, and how it could be mounted in such a way as that it is a flush mount fitting in the hood with a flex hose between the hood fitting and the carb.. Then you could plug in a optional tube mabye via a rubber "furnco" pluming connector, just a vertical piece to become the "snorkel"..

the whole point is that you could plumb this "quick connect" snorkel fittin to a roof area or wherever you wanted ... and have a straight rigid piece that just plugs in for the final input..might only be a foot long or even less depending on where it was mounted

[scotty]

you can just cut a chunk out of the back of the hood,so that it opens and the snorkel just sits there.

i wouldnt run it thru the fender,cause it will stick out waaay to far and just get beat up and ripped off. if you use 2" pvc you can easily run it thru a hole cut in the rear of the hood,or into and up thru the cowl. cutting the hood has the advantage of simply getting a junk $10 hood and keeping your good one for a spare.

if youre worried about airflow, i read somewhere that a 2" pvs is capable of flowing something like 1600 cfm. if youre still worried about it,build an H type snorkel and run one up either side of your windshield. you have the right idea,remove all the little hoses and such from the air cleaner and make it air tight. i simply filled my heat exchanger thing with silicone. i use 3 C clamps to keep the top and bottom pressed tightly together. ive been thru 5 foot deep creeks,with my hood completely underwater,and not missed a beat. the air intake part is easy.but youve got to keep fire in the hole with a gas engine to keep it runnin underwater!

anyway,ive tried different things on top of the snorkel,from forward facing elbows to K&N type filter elements,and just about all of them will eventually get ripped off.ive finally given up and just put a simple backward facing 45 elblow,so it tucks right upagainst the roof and dont stick up much.

the forward facing deals(like come with a kit) definately look the coolest,but arnet real practical if your trails involve heavily wooded areas,and tight trails.

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scott
85 grand wagoneer
258 with motorcraft 2bbl/904/twin stick dana 300/dana 44/welded amc 20
38x15.5 gumbo mudders
snorkel/dual batteries/onboard air/"custom" convertable
3 inch body lift/mostly stock suspension/"modified" fender openings
custom front/rear bumpers and brushgaurd

T18/dana-spicer 18 with drum E brake and PTO swap very soon
searching for offset QT rear and PTO winch

[This message has been edited by scotty (edited December 27, 2000).]

[Shake N Bake]

Hey guys,

Thanks for the quck response!

My personal preference is to mount snorkels to the passenger side, The last one I had on the drivers side seemed to create strange blind spots. I really prefer to leave my hood in tact for the time being, not to mention there really is no good place to run a Pipe out the back of the hood on the passenger side, either the hinge is in the way, the heater motor, the heater box, the sparkplugs could never be accesssed... 258's definitely have more options.

I don't like the mounting to the side of the fender myself, but its about the only way I can see of doing it. I might be able to run in the fender up to the A-Pillar, but that would be one UGLY hole to cut in the fender http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/smile.gif But it MIGHT be possible.

My other thought was just to have the snorkel go Hummer-style. over and STRAIGHT up! Its still a consideration...



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Andy
79 Wagoneer LTD "Shake N Bake"
Calgary Alberta Canada (Eh!)