Warn vs. Milemarker vs. Spicer Hubs

[Oracle]

Ok, crunch time for ordering stuff. I see lots of people like the Warn premiums, but they use aluminum parts...both the top line Milemarker and Spicer units for the D44 30 spline use steel. Wouldn't the steel be a hell of a lot stronger?
Opinions please; specially from those "older and wiser" guys who wish they'd gotten something else.
As always, thanks in advance. btw these going into 86 GW with 228 t-case. Going to be locked in front and run around with one hub unlocked on snow, off camber stuff for better tracking and steering so want STRONG. tanx

[River Beast]

The Warn hubs are about $90 the Milemarkers Premiums are $54 from Jc Whipme... I held both hubs side by side... same construction and material (all metal/aluminum)....Go Milemarker!!! Others I have looked at were plastic guts!!!! :eek:

[derf]

Warn premiums have a lifetime warranty. And the important parts are made out of steel. They're what I bought for my Jeep.

[tuck]

I'm riding on Warn hubs, love em

[scotty]

which is more important? ease of "unlockability" or strength?

i gaurantee you will NOT break the factory spicer lockouts. however, when the driveline is bound up it is impossible to unlock them till youve relieved tension on the driveline(by backing up,jacking a wheel off the ground)

i ran factory spicers on both sides forever cause they were free. since i welded my front end i need to be able to lock/unlock the hubs easily,and the spicers werent good for that :( so i put a warn premium on the left side(the side i unlock ;) ) and am still running a spicer on the right.

ive know lotsa guys to run spicers on d60 and 44s,and ive never seen one let go. its always a u joint or axleshaft first.

[blt2krl]

Like RB said the Warn and Milemarker hubs are virtually identical. With warn your also paying for the name, dosen't make it any better of a product. I went with the milemarker hubs for 54 buck. Cheaper and same sterngth it was a no brainer for me.

[Rockwagon]

I've run them all and broke them all. I will have to admit though the spicer only let go after my stub shaft split open like a nuked hotdog. I you think I'm kidding I'm not. It split from one end to the other. It took an hour to beat it out of the spindle on the trial. I would go spicer

[scotty]

wow! :eek: rockwagon,that sounds like some quality breakage! ;) :D seen em twist off and splinter,but never seen oe split up the middle before!

[Oracle]

I presume I should get the spicers off what? a 1/2 ton j20 or Cherokee?
thanks guys.

[Crazy_Jeepman]

I rather the Hub to be the weak link. It is a heck of a lot easier to change a hub on the trail rather than a axle joint or axle. I carry a spare hub in a can ready for such a situation. When I do buy replacement hubs I do buy Warns. They do a good job. ;)

[derf]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Crazy_Jeepman:
I rather the Hub to be the weak link. It is a heck of a lot easier to change a hub on the trail rather than a axle joint or axle. I carry a spare hub in a can ready for such a situation. When I do buy replacement hubs I do buy Warns. They do a good job. ;) <hr></blockquote>

Having been involved in the trail repair of vehicles with different pieces gone, I'd agree 100% with Crazy on this one.

Broken hub: An allen wrench, a bit of grease and a few minutes. You don't even have to take the tire off.

Broken axle or U-Joint: Take off the tire, take off the hub, take off the brake caliper, remove the spindle, pull out the axle shaft, replace the u-joint(if needed), put the axle back in, put the spindle back on, put the brake caliper back on, put the hub back on, put the tire back on. And that's the over simplified version!

Which would you rather do on the trail when it's late, you're hungry and cold, it's getting dark and the storm is moving in? Because that's when it breaks.

[Hump]

Well then I got hosed at the local shop. They told me that the only hub available for my J-20 was the warn premiums. So I bought them for $120! Now I find out there are others!?! That's not the only problems I've had up there. Guess I won't be going back! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[bchesley]

Hate to hear the Hump! I use the warn premium because I have never had a problem out of them, and yes there is something to a name. Do you buy the cheapest oil to put in your engine just because it is the same color and pours the same??

[liliysdad]

i run aset of warn premiums that were made in 1972!! still work incredibly well, and yes i do use the h*ll out of them. i have already shelled a set of select-o-matics and a set of warn standards. found these in a salvage yard and wouldn't trade them for a new set.

[River Beast]

I would rather shread a hub than a stub shaft anytime.....

[porkchop]

I have some no name brand of hub on. I got them for free and they work good. I am hoping they are the weak link! I am sure they are.

[FrankenJeep]

HUB??? What's that? Is that anything like that vacuum doo hickey sticking out of my pumpkin? :D tongue.gif :D

[River Beast]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by FSFrank:
HUB??? What's that? Is that anything like that vacuum doo hickey sticking out of my pumpkin? :D tongue.gif :D <hr></blockquote>

naaahhh.. short for 'HUSBAND'... I think.... :D

[scotty]

you can install warns new "hub fuses" to ensure that the lockout is the weeklink. it is designed to sheer the little teeth just before the u joint would break with the wheels pointed straight. it is possible to break a u joint before sheerig the hub fuse with the wheels turned,tho.

im thinking im going to order a set this week. the u joint i btoke over the weekend,tho,popped while i had the wheels cut all the way left,so the fuse prolly wouldnt have helped me in that situatuion.

factory jeep hubs are warns,tho. if you want spicer hubs look on the front of ford/chevy.ot sure if dodge used em or not.

[blackjeep2002]

I had Milemarkers, but they didn't hold up to the 4.56's and 35's. One of them blew up on me on the highway in 2wd. I went with Warn and they are holding up great! smile.gif
Keith :cool:

[Stolen76]

I've run the MM hubs before, never had a problem. The ones I put on my Wag this go around are ok, but I have one that won't seal. They seem to be cheaper in construction.

[jeepbob]

I don't run lock outs on the Wag yet but will be and they will be Warn. I have seen too many gernaded MM's. I have Warns on the CJ and they work great. I am rough on front ends and have even stripped out a drive flange and found that the spider gears were the weak point on a D27 but have never blown an axle shaft or steering U joint.

[will e]

Am I supposed to be unhappy with my stock hubs? 81 Wag.

[scotty]

if you have factory 208 and lockouts,you should not be unhappy,because your factory lockouts are warns with a JEEP sticker on the plastic turny thing ;)