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TexasJ10
11-26-2002, 03:09 PM
Does anyone have any experience or heard anything one way or another about these transfer case brakes that are starting to appear? High Angle Driveline (http://www.highangledriveline.com) and All Pro Offroad both have them http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files//205_e-side[1].jpg
[ November 26, 2002, 10:49 PM: Message edited by: TexasJ10 ]
orangecherokee
11-26-2002, 04:41 PM
i saw it in a magazine and am really interested, i know nothing more than what i read about it. seems decently cheap for the results.
Mike D
11-26-2002, 04:47 PM
I dont like it...i feel that it is revisiting some thing that is kind of dangerous........
Break the drivline...or either side of your rear axle....did you say there was a hole in your hydro line...and down the hill you go.....
I had the drum version on my 63 Ktruck..... was one of the first things i changed.
(wich is the one in the pic) <-----------------
porkchop
11-26-2002, 08:53 PM
I had the drum version on my wag for a long time and never had any trouble with it. I didn't put it back on because I went to the CV shaft in the rear. I was in the middle of trying to fab a new brake to work with the CV rear shaft. The only things I don't like about them is if you are not in 4 wheel drive and brake a u-joint in the rear it will not work for you. Or if you get oil and grease all over it it will slip. That was the drum brake so I don't know how the disc will work.
FSJeeper
11-26-2002, 11:20 PM
This is what I am going to run on mine, except with 2 calipers. The guy at High Angle told me that his normal setup will not hold a full size 4x4 on a steep angle. He said he could make me one with 2 calipers and was pretty sure that would hold anywhere. In the case of a park brake, the drum would be far superior than a disc setup cause of the additional brake surface.
TexasJ10
11-27-2002, 01:05 AM
I like how it tucks it up out of the way and in some applications you can connect it to a lever rather than a spongy cable. The driveshaft thing is a real problem. I know that a lot of monster trucks mount a big disk on the rear differential pinion yoke. It catches a lot of debris there, but seems effective.
olin18
11-27-2002, 05:13 AM
From what I have seen of these breaks they are not ment to provide breaking when driving. They are only for use as an E break. So you don't really have the problem of breaking and axel shaft, or a drive shaft. These do not take the place of the breaks at the wheel, they just help those breaks hold your truck while it is parked. If you are breaking drive shafts, and axel shafts while parked you have problems.
Mike D
11-27-2002, 09:27 AM
E- for emergency!!!!!!
Drive line broke..its an emergency...axle...... same thing.
your moving and cant get it into 4WD.....your going to be in the hospital for a while...mabey the morgue....... ill stay with my re-fit of the axle drum brakes for the e-brake.
Sorry....... im not going back.
What happens when your D-shaft breaks, takes out the brake line with it, and then your in trouble, because the E brake on the transfer case is useless, and you have fluid squirting out when you hit the brakes. Yes, you might have some braking in the front, but i don't like it personally.
Peter Matusov
11-27-2002, 10:23 AM
Mike D and others,
this is the setup the Land Rovers have to the day, except for they have drum, not a disk.
it holds a 5000-lb Discovery on a 40-degree angle, no problem. Breaking an axleshaft makes matters worse, but as long as you can lock the center differential (on a full-time 4x4), you're in a decent shape. On a part-time 4x4, you have to engage 4WD and manual hubs if equipped.
the holding efficiency of this setup is pretty amazing, my jeeps never had parking brake this good (axle gearing helps again here).
I'd have it on my jeep, not as a replacement, but as a supplement to standard parking brake.
peter
FSJeeper
11-27-2002, 12:28 PM
Build your driveshafts right and you don't have to worry about it. 1410's and thickwall shafts will do the trick.
Mike D
11-29-2002, 10:24 AM
when you break an axle...does it really go flying out the side????
and with the hydrolic gone... i still have the CABLE E-break.....
Now im thinking about getting an anchor..and a 40'-1" chain to throw out the window....just in case..... lol
Originally posted by Mike D:
when you break an axle...does it really go flying out the side????
and with the hydrolic gone... i still have the CABLE E-break.....
Now im thinking about getting an anchor..and a 40'-1" chain to throw out the window....just in case..... lolYou never know what might happen, its the whole Murphys law or whatever, just might not be a good idea is all, do whatever you want, i am just voicing my opinions on it.
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