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Don Bucket
10-30-2002, 07:12 AM
Does anyone know of a way to do this parts that already exist, or is the only option a kit?
I have seen this kit (Click Here) (http://www.4wheelparts.com/product2.asp?imseqn=1196&occlass=SSB&cat=PER) for $767, anyone have any experience with it???
Thanks
Bucket
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Panther
10-30-2002, 07:35 AM
Well, I would say that's pretty expensive.
You could go with the TSM FSJ kit:
http://tsmmfg.com/2460.htm
The expensive part is the ebrake but I'm sure folks on here could provide better insite.
I have their kit but used from caddy calipers and don't have an ebrake (in my scrambler that is).
don't lose hope, there has to be a cheaper way..
basically, you need a bracket to mount the caliper on your axle, that's the hard/expensive part... other than that you should be able to use 1/2 ton rotors, Caddy calipers for E-brakes, Chevy calipers for non-ebrake, some rubber hoses and presto!
Don Bucket
10-30-2002, 02:17 PM
Do you think that the benifits of rear disks are worth the effort/$$$ to install them??
I like the self cleaning aspect, and the ease of maintenance, replacement etc...
It is for a wheeling only RIG
reddog
10-30-2002, 05:58 PM
If the caddy ebrake calipers are a PITA to use then get get a line lock ( a lever valve that plumps into the brake lines) to resolve that issue. You can set them up to lock up all 4 wheels. I can't provide a source offhand for ya but I drove a tow truck (in a past life) and they all had them, flip a lever, step on the brakes and voila! - your not going anywhere. Just an idea...
Kerry
Marvin Gates
10-30-2002, 06:51 PM
If you go to Kenall's website he has pics of how to use the Caddy rear disc. MG :D :D :D
Marc_01
10-31-2002, 03:24 AM
I guess you could order the kit, trace the bracket and send it back. haha. That would be kind of lame.
Line lock sounds awesome. Would be nice to lock up all 4s when parked on a hill.
Sundowner
10-31-2002, 03:38 AM
line locks aren't redundant as a brake, so they won't be legal. I have the caddy e-brake calipers in the back of my CJ. they're soooo small. compared to the stock front FSJ calipers, they're like doll house tea cups. and they're friggin expensive as hell. your'e looking at $150 for rebuilts with cores, and $300 without cores.
In my opinion, the best wat to go is to get the TSM kit. last I looked, it was about $230, and it's worth it. I did my CJ out of totally stock parts from Napa, and it cost just as much ans was 10 times the hassle. use the same non e-brake calipers in the rear as you have in the front, and call High Angle Driveline and but his e-brake kit. it costs a bit more, you re in about $550 total cost, but you get twice(my estimate) the rear braking power, and a reliable e-brake. my CJ's ebrakes work but I don't really trust the itsy-bitsy Caddy pads on the 35" tires in the 3800lb Jeep parked on a 6% downgrade.
there are also kits sold on eBay for about $200. everything necessary to convert your drums...made for FSJs =)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871184217
i don't know anything about it other than it's cheaper than $800!!!!
Panther
10-31-2002, 07:52 AM
I have done both the TSM kit and the one on ebay and both are good. The price is 50 bucks lower on the ebay kit and the brakets are more stout but both are good.
I just worked out rear discs for my D60-2. I was able to use the TSM discs from my scout rear axle kit and used FSJ front caliper brackets. That means I will have to use the larger GM front calipers so eventhough I don't have an ebrake, there's no way to get one now, lol
Anyway, I will be selling my TSM brackets because I have no use for them. I'll post them in for sale once I get some pics. The good thing is that everything else is over the counter parts so the brackets and the spacer for the backing plate (which folks sometime forget but the ebay kit and TSM include) is all you need.
Lee
Don Bucket
10-31-2002, 02:08 PM
let me know when you are ready to sell those brackets
scotty
11-01-2002, 02:01 AM
you can buy weld-on brackets here: http://www.aa-mfg.com/catalog/
use 91 and up k1500 rotors,77 chevy front calipers and brake lines. important thing is to cut your factory drum backing plate donw and leave it between th flange and axlehousing as it puts proper preload onthe wheelbearing.
buying everyting new i did my old rear 44 for about $130.made my own bracket,cause i didnt have the above link to buy them for $7 apiece.
for an E brake ive got a hydraulic "park lok" from the local buggy shop on my front wheels.
you could easily use the caddy calipers in place of front chevy calipers with the above brackets and k1500 rotors,and make a bracket to retain the cables. like sundowner said,this adds quite a bit to hte cost.
rear discs are easy,and a very worthwhile mod. soon every vehicle i own will have rear discs.
Panther
11-04-2002, 11:23 AM
Here's a write up on the discs I'm working on for the d60.
It's slightly different than the d44 but gives you an idea.
http://www.panther4x4.com/Dana60-2/DiscBrakes.html
Don Bucket
11-06-2002, 12:29 AM
thanks guys, you have provided much useful information - bucket
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