Trying to buy a 2nd Jeep, who are these Idiots

[1jeep4me]

The ex hot rodder Jeep seller: This guy was given the jeep by an uncle because bubba here, slapped on headers on his camaro in high school so he must know how to fix it. The ride he is selling has butchered wiring, knocking engine and a distributor that doesnt work. He likes to say the engine is in good shape but the distributor has a short. Plus there is lots of chrome on the engine and when the Jeep ran it was REAL strong.

Its a classic seller: This guy has a 1978 waggy with rusted out fenders crumpled fenders and a bad motor, but since he saw some jackass in Texas selling restored waggys for 40K, his must be a classic and worth atleast 1/2 that. His favorite qoute is "its all there", "its a classic", "you dont see these anymore"

The Off road nut seller: This guy has a J10 or cherokee or even a hacked up waggy limited. Its lifted 6-10 inches, has 38's TSL super duper swampers, headers, chrome air cleaner, MSD box and every item sold from 4wheel parts warehouse that will glue to a jeep. But it still has stock gearing or it has welded diffs with 5.88's Its got a spray can paint job or its painted with bed liner, the rig will barely start and has open headers. because he racked up every 500 dollar credit card he could latch on to in the past ten years to buy junk he put on it, his pricing is equal to the past due balance on 10,000 dollars in credit cards, and because his old lady says if he sells it they gotta pay off those bills his price for his gem is about 18,000. Oh and remember its a "classic"

Original owner seller: He has taken his family in this waggy across America. He has NO mechanical prowess or ability. He has paid the Jeep dealer to keep it running for the past 20 years. but the last set of glitches, even the dealer doesnt want to fix it. His 30 year old son meets you when you want to see it and proceeds to describe every stain his parents made or he made on the car and remembers when the rust started to show through. His stain journey takes you from his parent conception of him to his first time with his girl friend. Sale price for this lovely waggy limited is about 5000-10000. Nothing works. but is does start. Oh the A/C just needs to be recharged with a can of freon.

The guy seller: He knows its not worth a thing, but understands there are guys like me who love old jeeps. He rattles off all the classic issues and then says " just make me an offer, any offer. I am tired of looking at it."


I am certain there are many more different type sellers please ad yours for fun.

[Scoot]

Moving guy seller- moving across the country to a place with no snow or close off-roading, forced to sell because he absolutely can't take it with him. Almost gives it away to a guy buying it for his 17 year old kid, who as they drive off, grinds all the gears on the smooth shifting T-15 the previous owner rebuilt with his own two hands. Can ya' tell I'm still bitter?:(

[krek]

You gonna hafta change your username... now who is the idiot? :D

[1jeep4me]

i havent bought #2 yet. but is that possible

You gonna hafta change your username... now who is the idiot? :D

[HOOT]

Rust free..
. Garage kept..
Runs great..
Halfway through the ad he then states it has the normal rust issues. Only spots are along the seam in the bed. Paint just has a couple of bubbles starting to show on the flares.
Completely restored..
Easy fix...

Translation: Bed needs totally stripped and pieces cut out then rewelded back in. Frame is rusted all over.
The garage kept it because he couldn't afford to get it back when they were finished working on it.
Ran great when I used it to go to the corner store and when I moved it out of the driveway and parked it around back.
What do people think are under those bubbles?????
Bought a wrecked J truck and then bought a old wagoneer and transfered the fenders and stuff onot the truck. Rattle canned it where the rust was showing.
Then fix it yourself before you sell it.

[temps425]

IGNORANCE IS BLISS SELLER: So "clueless" that he/she has misrepresented an item so bad and wasted lots of time driving a long way on something completely different then advertised. This person should usually be very embarassed and feel bad about doing this to someone, but usually does not.

In most cases, I believe they really are just that ignorant and don't know any different, but other times its just out n out lies. This seller may or may not have any comprehension of the hard work involved to fix even the smallest problems on these trucks. Either way, they will not tell you otherwise. This seller believes any lifter tap or motor noise can be solved by an oil change and "just being driven." This is almost never the case.

Also, with this seller, be sure to multiply the estimated cost and work times of repair by at LEAST 20. If this seller tells you "the truck will run perfect if you time it," plan on going through every element of the motor. If the truck "shifts funny, I think it needs a tranny fush", the tranny is shot.

Anyone wanna guess if I've ever experienced this seller personally? :rolleyes:

[PlasticBoob]

ROFL!!!! GREAT POST! :lol:

[Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81]

The backwoods clueless hick - You know, the "MOPARRRRAWARR!!!!! 360" or "Chevy 350" (for the Buick rigs) or the "SUPER RARE" or "I had it appraised for $2600" for a ROTTED lawn ornament with no floors, spring hangers, brakes and doesnt run and has been sitting in his front yard for 10 years (Matt and I personaly know that one)

[JAWs7227]

My personal favorites found while surfing ebay....

The... I spent 40k restoring this jeep and I have the receipts to prove it seller. Yeah, ok, you spent 40k restoring a jeep? You can restore a 60s Corvette for that(and less), so you're either an idiot or a liar.

The... this jeep has been meticulously restored seller. No, you had the local chop shop change the fluids, rebuild the carb, and replace the plugs, wires, and maybe the distributor, or maybe you just swapped in a 350 chevy(because the guy at the chop shop said those 360's are junk), then you put some late model buckets in it, and Maaco slapped some chevy victory red or corvette yellow on it for 500 bucks, oh, and you got one of those tacky, generic, fake wood steering wheels with the GT symbol in the center, that doesn't look good on anything, let alone a jeep. You didn't restore it, you butchered it.

[herm]

Im getting divorced seller: ( one of the best kind to encounter)

"...last winter it ran great when i was getting it off my property on the mountian...."
"why are you selling it?"
" i am getting a divorce"
" how about ( 20% under asking price)?"
" ah, let me think on it...."
phone call 2 hours later:
" she gets half anyway, when can you pick it up?"


i felt a twang of sorrow, but then remembered the cobbled together lift and wiring that needed to be taken care of.

[maccj5]

Went and looked at a waggy a while back total hack job
inside and out no body part left un-dented butch job
spring over rats nest interior lots of rust
clapped out 401---- all the guy kept saying was
" look at all the new nuts and bolts on it"
I passed on the 1,500$ price did get a good laugh out
of it though

[npd811]

IGNORANCE IS BLISS SELLER: So "clueless" that he/she has misrepresented an item so bad and wasted lots of time driving a long way on something completely different then advertised. This person should usually be very embarassed and feel bad about doing this to someone, but usually does not.

I know this guy. He lives in Penna. I believe he has a brother in CT and a cousin in NY. It runs in their gene pool - which is very shallow.

[710 Burner]

i havent bought #2 yet. but is that possible
With moderator approval, yes.

[KaiserMan]

I get the "I drive it every week/I'm going to restore it" seller a lot arround here.

Pair of 80's J20's

Rotted to the door handles, tires sunk into the ground up to the hubs, grass growing up past the hood and been sitting for as long as I've lived.

But seller says "I drive them up the mountain every weekend to get logs".

Or the Dodge Little Red Express that has been sitting for years and years and years....rotted, sinking into the ground.

Guy is very upset that I asked if he was interested in selling it because he was going to restore it soon.

[addicted]

The backwoods clueless hick - You know, the "MOPARRRRAWARR!!!!! 360" or "Chevy 350" (for the Buick rigs) or the "SUPER RARE" or "I had it appraised for $2600" for a ROTTED lawn ornament with no floors, spring hangers, brakes and doesnt run and has been sitting in his front yard for 10 years (Matt and I personaly know that one)

Wow, you guys should be a little nicer to Ristow.












:D

[medinajim2000]

My favorite is "completely restored" ads. Then they take pictures of the interior (which usually looks like crap anyway), but don't even bother to take out the half empty can of "stop leak" and carb cleaner and left over engine parts (didn't need those anyway) from the floorboard. New paint usually means cheap rust cover-up full of orange peel, overspray and thick dripping runs. Rust free means no rust, other than where the bubbles are and the sheet metal is eaten thru under the woodgrain, never mind the rocker panels that they didn't bother to check when you asked them about rust because that would mean getting their knees dirty - you're just supposed to take their word for it. Oh, and when you ask them how the skid plate looks and they tell you "What skid plate? I don't see one," it's usually because there's nothing left of it. The power steering, locks and windows work great - All the power you can put into them to get them to work.

[smogdredd]

Desert critter, got it though trade for horse boarding. Desperatly needs cash.
Wholesaler, got it at auction, found out it was more than a cosmetic total. Hopes for a buyer as dumb as he is to make it their problem. Insists he has a buddy who can fix it for $500.

[710 Burner]

My personal favorites found while surfing ebay....

The... I spent 40k restoring this jeep and I have the receipts to prove it seller. Yeah, ok, you spent 40k restoring a jeep? You can restore a 60s Corvette for that(and less), so you're either an idiot or a liar.

Its possible... not sayin' its right, just possible.:cool:

[cajun_lad]

The KBB/NADA Seller:
I priced it online, and good retail was $XX,XXX. So I figure I'd take 'bout half of that off for the rust and running issues. How's $8,000 sound?

Ummm... No.


Or my personal favorite...
The "I've got this rusted POS sitting out back that doesn't run, but its older than me so it must be worth something" Seller:
(self-explanatory)

[Ristow]

Wow, you guys should be a little nicer to Ristow.:D


:mad:

ROFLOL!!!!

[serehill]

The thousand of expalnations from people who bought for $500.00 & Then don't have time to complete. I lost my job, The POS is a bigger piece of junk than they thought. It's almost as funnny as the threads on here about the guy that buys his junk 1,200 miles away for $300.00 (which is high for these giuys) And then writes about the ordeal he had getting the mint rig home.:lol:




And the Famous: Rig is 95% restored.
Last but not least Owned it for 15 years & I know nothing about it.

[shakari]

You think the sellers there are bad..... you should see the buyers here in Africa.

I'm currently selling a classic motorcycle and have had 3 calls where a 'potential buyer' wants to meet me in remote locations by the side of the road..... which in reality means they're trying to set you up for a hijack and another 3 calls where they want me to give them the bike and they send me a few dollars every month!

These people must think I have the word stupid tattood on my forehead! :confused:

[Bill J]

My all time favorite is: "Highway miles". Maybe I am a skeptic, but when you have to say that, I don't believe you! Although the number of people I know who commute 200 miles round trip everyday here in the greater NYC area is mind boggling to me:confused:!

[wheresdawaves]

My all time favorite is: "Highway miles". Maybe I am a skeptic, but when you have to say that, I don't believe you! Although the number of people I know who commute 200 miles round trip everyday here in the greater NYC area is mind boggling to me:confused:!


Yea I love it when someone from queens or the bronx tells me it's all highway miles..... Yea I'm sure you were on the highway with it but you only got it about 10ft every 20min due to traffic. Stop and go on the HW don't count as all highway buddy.

[Ghost Town Hunter]

Lots of odd people out there.
I must have gotten lucky.
I found the "I don't know what's wrong with it but see if you like it. If you got $400 and a battery you can drive it home."

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy131/kinetic1963/76%20Wagoneer%20before%20%20after/Lt-2.jpg

[gotmike]

i had the 90 year old man who couldn't remember if he even owned it... didn't know what was wrong with it... couldn't fix it himself anymore... so he gave it to me for $200... unfortunately... time's being what they are... i had to sell it before i could even try to really get it running... sold it for $500 and all it needed was a starter (i supplied) a new fuel filter... and fresh gas... i've even seen it driving around town a couple times... and every time i see it... it just kindof hurts...