Not a good thing....

[parcellb]

Here's how my BJ's 6" lift springs held up today while wheeling in the dirt. I am not sure whether to go back to BJ's and order up a new front spring or have a local spring shop tackle the job. BJ's has been horrible with backorders lately. Suggestions?

P.S. my transmission peed some pepto-pink fluid all over the driveway once I got home. Looks like it's coming from the modulator or maybe the cooler line connection. Had fun, but overall I am in the hole today.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs676.snc4/61601_1504860033539_1595423773_1187271_3885686_n.j pg

[skinnyD]

Sorry to hear but atleast it was fun. Is that even repairable?

[RussellS]

To be honest i dont think it can be repaired. Id suggest buying a new spring either from bj's or someone else thats not backorderd all depends on if you trust anyone else other then them for the springs.

[gotmike]

if you're doing that kind of wheeling you need to get a military double wrapped set of springs...

[mattmopar440]

If you got pink fluid on the drive you have water in your trans !!:eek:

[azpackrat]

Sounds as if you may have had one of the transmission coolant lines in the radiator rupture.

[Stuka]

mY guess is the drive shaft hit something to cause the leak.

You only need a new main spring, the rest of the pack is fine.

I am assuming you must have hit something pretty hard to do that. Having a shackle in the front prevents the axle from having any travel to the rear when the tire hits something hard. A rear shackle allows the axle to move back. The downside to this is pinion angle issues as the suspension travels, and traction when trying to climb something because the axle moves back.

Although that setup would have prevented this from happening. But int he future, try to prevent from hitting an obstacle so hard.

[fireman91186]

I had one like that in high school and the local spring shop fixed it and I believe that spring still lives today.
But they might be able to just make you a main spring like Stuka stated.

[orangecherokee]

does your front shackle have anything behind it to prevent kick back? if not, there's your problem. If you don't fix it, that will continue to happen.

[j20brett]

Shackle stop as orange cherokee suggested. I bent my rancho 44044's twice before i realized what the deal was.

[J20 project]

does your front shackle have anything behind it to prevent kick back?
Not attempting to give a hard time here but there sure are some different thought processes out there.
My 6in springs have compressed/sagged enough that the front shackle is sitting against the frame and it's being suggested I put a bump stop in front of the shackle to limit its' frontward movement. Now I see people suggesting to put one behind it.
I have to ask,,why bother having a shackle? Why not just let the spring smash up and down and hope the shock takes the compression.

To the OP, I have really only seen this happen when attempting to blast through something hard and the axle getting shoved backwards very hard.
If you're going to wheel like that, might want to look into long travel a frame technology like the baja racers do.
J20

[parcellb]

I put on BJ's 2 in lift shackles to prevent the shackles from flipping forward on themselves and my bracketry for my front bumper limits the travel forward as well. Now the shackle is flipped backward :banghead: . I was driving through a sandy part of the trail that was covered in tall grass/weeds and hit a hole that I could not see through the brush. Coming out of the hole bent the spring. (Picture really big/deep pot hole covered in grass moving at approx. 15-20 mph.)

[j20brett]

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showpost.php?p=959074&postcount=12

Actually, here's a better pic

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m146/brett6819/Parts%20Diagrams%20and%20Pics/shacklestop.jpg

[orangecherokee]

Not attempting to give a hard time here but there sure are some different thought processes out there.
My 6in springs have compressed/sagged enough that the front shackle is sitting against the frame and it's being suggested I put a bump stop in front of the shackle to limit its' frontward movement. Now I see people suggesting to put one behind it.
I have to ask,,why bother having a shackle? Why not just let the spring smash up and down and hope the shock takes the compression.

because that makes no sense. maybe you're joking but maybe not. I hope you are. just in case, take a paper clip and make a leaf spring. flip it over to where you make a rainbow with it. now press the center down. what do the ends do? hold only one end and try it. any change? now hold both ends and press down on the center again. what happens this time? fixing the ends forces an unnatural bend in the spring causing it to look like the letter "M". it stiffens the ride and you lose all your flex. not to mention the stress on the actual mounts. that's all I'm going to say about that.

Now, the stop is to limit the shackles tendency to move backwards (on shackles mounted to the front eye) or forward (shackles mounted on the rear eye).

From this point out I'm talking about front eye mounted shackles.

When the axle shifts back it can only go so far before it stubs up because of the solid mount on the rear eye of the main leaf. the shock is either absorbed by the bushing or the metal has to give resulting in a bend. stops do not prohibit normal leaf/shackle movement. it only prevents unwanted travel.

to get what I'm saying, jack one side of your truck up and get the shackle where it hangs perpendicular to the ground (straight down). that is the most rear travel you want. weld a tube or block behind the shackle at this point to prevent it from moving back any further. when you let the truck back down the shackle should move forward as you put weight on it. that's the correct position it should be in. nothing is affected to your ride, your flex, your spring, etc. it just prevents it from bending the main leaf.

[RabbitInTheMoon]

Does anyone have a pictures of a "shackle stop". Not sure what to call it?

[bushwood44]

Thats not a spring issue.Just get another spring from BJ's and watch out for holes.

[ballen0352]

does BJ's have lifetime warranty like BDS on springs? I did same thing to a yj spring it was replaced no questions asked

[J20 project]

maybe you're joking but maybe not. Oh boy I wish I was.........I too found it to be ridiculous.
J20

I was being verrrrry facetious w/ my comment about not using a shackle. But seriously, I was told to install a front bumpstop to solve my spring sag.........

[azpackrat]

I think you're focusing on the wrong issue, if you're leaking pink foam from your tranny you have water in the tranny which is a much bigger issue than a bent spring. Especially since you know how you bent the spring, but not where the water came from. Just my .02 ;)

[budojeepr]

Thats not a spring issue.Just get another spring from BJ's and watch out for holes.
Yeah, that didn't look like just "wheeling in the dirt". More like "slamming at speed into obstacles." A military wrap isn't going to protect against that kind of impact. I do like the idea of the shackle stop, although transferring the force of the impact into the frame may do some other, perhaps less reparable damage.