J3000 a Ton Truck?

[mtjeep]

What were the truck sizes by model description. I know my 78' J10 was a half ton. Is my 70' j3000 a ton? And what were the other models and tonnage of these trucks?

[Elliott]

I don't think I've ever seen a Jeep add/brochure advertising a 1/2, 3/4 or ton rating on any of the trucks. The did list GVWR and the highest ratings were 7,600 8,400 and 8,600 (DRW) IIRC.

[AMC-J/20]

Seem's a bit light duty for what i was looking for . . .

Mike

[Tigger4X]

X2 on the tonnage being indicated like ELLIOTT said and about the GVWR.

[COLOFIREMAN]

Seem's a bit light duty for what i was looking for . . .

Mike


But a lot of that depended on the fact that they only used a D44 front and single rear wheels.

[HerrKooled]

You come across a jeep with a factory D60 front, and D70/80 rear then you're onto something.

[Bill Moore]

You come across a jeep with a factory D60 front, and D70/80 rear then you're onto something. that would be a M715

[tazjeeper]

what do you want it for?
I know my J10 works great for me. I haul jeeps, trailers, you name it...
they are a great made truck and they do not work like a newer truck. What I mean by this is its got real metal, a real frame, good pwer to weight, I have seen newer 3/4 and 1 tons having a hard job rolling down the highway with a car hauler and a truck on it as I pass them in the j10 with a jeep xj, j10, GW ect ect....
you may be suprized in what an old jeep truck will do.

[KaiserMan]

I myself have always considered the J2800/J3800 series trucks (SRW 8K GVW and DRW 8,600 GVW) to be 1-tons.

Doesn't matter what they have for axles, it all about payload. And the SRW J3800's had a payload of over 3000lbs. Which is more then a lot of 70-80's Chevy and Ford 1-tons.

[HerrKooled]

Doesn't matter what they have for axles, it all about payload.
Axle does has to do with payload capacity, or more specifically gross axle weight rating which goes higher with the heavier duty axle.

[AMC-J/20]

:cool: I'm sure the axles have everything to do with it ;)

To me J/20 means same as 250/2500 so it'll get ran as such if she don't keep up it'll be delt with . . .

I want to town anything from ATV's to full side truck's on a trailer.

Put 1,300lb's in the bed hitch 3,200lb's on behind it and scream 200 miles away from home drop the load sit 3-5days load up again and scream on back . . .

to

Hitching 9,000lb's of trailer n cargo behind it a blast off for 25-75miles . . .

Now my 95' K2500 is an 8,600GVWR truck and truck wise it dose all of this, but the 190hp/380tq engine well it dose the job but way slower then i want it to ;)

That D44 front wouldn't really be strained the d60 rear end would be carrying most of the load most of the time . . .

Mike

[KaiserMan]

Axle does has to do with payload capacity, or more specifically gross axle weight rating which goes higher with the heavier duty axle.

That's right, axles do play a part in the maximum payload a vehicle a can carry. But they only play a part. Overall weight, brakes, spring capacity etc play just as important a part.

Take a look at a 1-ton Model TT trucks. Or a 1-ton Willys Jeep truck. Those had what, Dana 25 fronts and 53 rears? Just because the axles aren't what one would generally consider "1-ton axles" doesn't mean the truck isn't a one ton.

The Willys and Model TT could carry a payload in the range of what most 1 ton trucks are capable of. Which is usually around 2500-3500lbs.

You also have to take into account that yesterdays 1 tons trucks are just plain built differently then today's. Even so they are still 1 ton trucks.

And, I have seen a Jeep dually add from the early 60's calling the DRW a "2-ton" truck.

[joe]

Unlike the 74 and later J10/J20 designation which refers to 1/2 or 3/4 ton. The earlier J200/2000, J300/3000/4000 are wheelbase designations and each depends on how the truck was ordered regarding GVWR. For the J3000 era the 5th digit of the VIN will give you that particular trucks GVWR, W=5000, X=6000, Y=7000, Z=8000 roughly. The door jamb sticker will also define the specific model. My 73 J4000 was actually a J4600 (6000GVWR) My 72 J4000 was desinated as a J4500(5000GVWR).

[mud89]

I remember someone on the forum saying that in California the trucks with a GVW over 8500lbs are classified as 1 ton trucks
It would mean that the Gladiators DRW with 8600lbs GVW are considered at least in this state as one ton trucks

[jpcoutts]

Here's a page from my TSM that shows the various GVW's. Note that the J-xxxx designations have more variety such as 3500, 3600,3700 and 3800 than the model numbers on the truck which were J200, J300 for the '63 to '65 and J2000 and J3000 for '66 and later trucks.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/jstuoc/Jeep%20misc%20to%20post/DSC05478.jpg

[FSJunkie]

Jeep trucks with a 1 ton rating are rare.
1963-64:

J-100 panel delivery
J-200 1/2T 5000 GVW (120" wheelbase)
J-210 1/2T 6000 GVW (120")
J-220 3/4T (120")
J-230 1T cab & chassis or stake bed only (120")
J-300 1/2T (126")
J-310 3/4T (126")
J-320 1T (126")
J-330 1T cab & chassis or stake bed only (126")


1965-74:
J-2500 1/2 ton 5000 GVW (120")
J-2600 1/2 ton 6000 GVW (120")
J-2700 3/4 ton 7000 GVW (120")
J-2800 1 ton 8600 GVW (120")
J-3500 1/2 ton 5000 GVW (126")
J-3600 1/2 ton 6000 GVW (126")
J-3700 3/4 ton 7000 GVW (126")
J-3800 1 ton 8600 GVW (126")
J-4500 1/2 ton 5000 GVW Townside only (132")
J-4700 3/4 ton 7000 GVW Townside only (132")
J-4800 3/4 ton 8000 GVW Townside, cab & chassis or stake bed (132")

1974-end:
J-10 Model 25 being the 1/2 ton 119" WBJ-10 Model 45 was the 1/2 ton 131" WB
J-20 Model 45 was the 3/4 ton 131" WB
J-30 1 ton cab & chassis or stake bed dually

[FSJunkie]

J-3000 isn't enough to tell, we need to know the second digit.

[Bill Moore]

Interesting you put a J30 at the end of your list, have you seen one?


Jeep trucks with a 1 ton rating are rare.
1963-64:

J-100 panel delivery
J-200 1/2T 5000 GVW (120" wheelbase)
J-210 1/2T 6000 GVW (120")
J-220 3/4T (120")
J-230 1T cab & chassis or stake bed only (120")
J-300 1/2T (126")
J-310 3/4T (126")
J-320 1T (126")
J-330 1T cab & chassis or stake bed only (126")


1965-74:
J-2500 1/2 ton 5000 GVW (120")
J-2600 1/2 ton 6000 GVW (120")
J-2700 3/4 ton 7000 GVW (120")
J-2800 1 ton 8600 GVW (120")
J-3500 1/2 ton 5000 GVW (126")
J-3600 1/2 ton 6000 GVW (126")
J-3700 3/4 ton 7000 GVW (126")
J-3800 1 ton 8600 GVW (126")
J-4500 1/2 ton 5000 GVW Townside only (132")
J-4700 3/4 ton 7000 GVW Townside only (132")
J-4800 3/4 ton 8000 GVW Townside, cab & chassis or stake bed (132")

1974-end:
J-10 Model 25 being the 1/2 ton 119" WBJ-10 Model 45 was the 1/2 ton 131" WB
J-20 Model 45 was the 3/4 ton 131" WB
J-30 1 ton cab & chassis or stake bed dually

[Herk]

When it had the original springs, I always considered my J-4700 (7000# GVW) to be a heavy duty half ton, but not a 3/4 ton. Suits my usage profile fine, if I needed more truck, I'd get a 99-02 Cummins Dodge.

[KaiserMan]

7000lb would have been comparable to a 3/4 ton in teh big three back then, 6000lb a HD half.

My 6600lb GVW 63 is rated for something like 2500lbs cargo payload, same as the old 79 K30 1-ton my father had. Of course, the K30 was A LOT heavier then the 63. Or at least as the 63 started life with NO options.

[Karvin]

There are people claiming to have hauled 2 1/2 tons in M715's. There is no reason to doubt them either as I don't think the M715 would have a problem moving it... stopping it however is a different story. The M715 is technically a 5/4 ton (1 1/4 ton if you prefer) but is likely built with a bit of overkill designed into it.

Does this apply to civilian models of Jeep trucks as well? How about some of you load up your J-trucks and let us know. I find myself curious.

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