Drivetrain swap

[Agent Orange]

I know someone has done the 4.0 HO from a Jeep. Has anyone considered the v8 and drivetrain from a jeep, dodge, or ford. These are all driver's drop that is why I was thinking about it. Any thoughts on this? I know it would be a little pricey and fabrication would be required.

[ June 20, 2003, 06:30 AM: Message edited by: Agent Orange ]

[U.P.'er J-20]

i dropped a 5.0/T-18 out of a ford F-150 in a 87' yj for a freind of mine, he bought the motor mounts from advanced adaptors and it dropped right in no problems the only mods that needed to be done were to relocate the tranny cross member, and i had to make a mount for the clutch slave cylinder and of course the drive shafts had to be modified

[gbarrett]

I put a Ford 351/C6 in my 84 GW. Runs great! Very easy swap. Took longer to get the old engine out than it did to put the ford in.

[Retro93]

Which Ford 351 did you install? W,C,M ? smile.gif

[gbarrett]

Windsor. Could have had the M(odified) but for my purposes, the W was the better choice.

[The PIG Smith]

Okay, since you guys are talking Blue Ovals, what is the difference between a 351M and 400 Ford?

[gsmikie]

Originally posted by Bryan Smith:
Okay, since you guys are talking Blue Ovals, what is the difference between a 351M and 400 Ford?3 1/2 pounds

[Crazy_Jeepman]

Originally posted by Bryan Smith:
Okay, since you guys are talking Blue Ovals, what is the difference between a 351M and 400 Ford?49 Cubes tongue.gif tongue.gif :D

[The PIG Smith]

Agent Orange, forgive me for hijacking your thread

Pete, I do not thing the difference is 49 cubes, but I am not 100% sure.

The following is what I am under impression about Ford 351M and 400:

They were basically the same with very minor differences. What were the differences?
I dunno.

Both have approx 400 cubes displacement.
The 351M, M for modified, meaning more that 351 cubes.

The 351M came after the 400 and was intended to replace the 400 in the larger Ford cars and the 400 was to be a truck only motor, but we all know that it did not happen that way.

My facts may be totally wrong and I hope someone will correct me.

This is very confusing.

[ June 21, 2003, 08:20 PM: Message edited by: Bryan Smith ]

[The PIG Smith]

Okay...I did a Google Search and I am totally wrong. Sorry Guys.

History of the Ford 351M/400 (http://www.projectbronco.com/History/history_of_the_ford_351m.htm)

[Bob Barry]

Originally posted by Bryan Smith:
They were basically the same with very minor differences. What were the differences?
I dunno.

Both have approx 400 cubes displacement.
The 351M, M for modified, meaning more that 351 cubes.The 400 is 400 ci; the 351M is 351ci. The "Modified" does not refer to the size, but to the design, to differentiate it from the similar 351 Cleveland, which it replaced.

Originally posted by Bryan Smith:
The 351M came after the 400 and was intended to replace the 400 in the larger Ford cars and the 400 was to be a truck only motor, but we all know that it did not happen that way.Go here to find out the lowdown on these iron beasts:

http://www.projectbronco.com/History/history_of_the_ford_351m.htm

And for EVERYTHING there is to know about these engines:

http://home.earthlink.net/~bubbaf250/index.html

[The PIG Smith]

Thanx Bob!

I'm an Idiot

[ June 21, 2003, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: Bryan Smith ]

[The PIG Smith]

I feel bad about de-railing Agent Orange's thread, so let me try to put it back on track.

I've thought for a long time, that post-1980 FSJ with the AMC bolt patterned 727 TorqueFlite transmission, would benefit from a modern Magnum Mopar.

A person would need to first need to find a Chrysler bolt patterned 727 TF.
Then using the AMC bolt patterned 727 TF's tailshaft, install the transfercase.

Drop the modern EFI 360, 727TF with its Xcase in your FSJ using the stock transmission cross memeber and Mopar engine mounts from Novak.

Electrical, Cooling, exhaust would be the next big items to tackle.

The two issues you referred to in your original post were price and fabrication.

With a Mopar solution, there would very little fab work.

The motor mounts would need to be installed, not much work there.
A Radiator would be need be fabbed at the local Rad shop to provide the proper outlets.
An Exhaust would be to be custom built.

The price part come into play here, it will cost $$$ to have this work done.

But not over simplify, it is mostly a bolt in.

So, who am I to say this a good solution?
I'm a nobody, for I have never done this before, but I am an excellant planner.

Good forethought and detailed planning is a must when performing engine swaps!