View Full Version : How much does a NP229/TF727 combo weigh?
leostevo
07-11-2010, 06:46 PM
I am going to be pulling the transfer case and transmission out of my '89 GW parts truck in the morning. I have never pulled a transmission or transfer case before and would prefer to pull them together just to keep the joining surfaces clean. They will be set on a pallet in the back yard and covered until I need them for rebuilds.
I have a transmission scissor jack with a grooved plate and strap to hold the housing in place. Am I a fool to try and do them together? I will be working alone.
How much will each of them weigh with all fluid?
jsinajeep
07-11-2010, 08:00 PM
Pulling both at the same time by yourself. I say don't do it. I tryed to pull the 400 w/QT and it was straped on tight. The only thing is that it is off
center to be balanced on the tranny lift and it got away from me and pinned my arm between the front spring and tranny housing.
thechier86
07-11-2010, 08:17 PM
i'm in the process of putting mine back together, and yeah, that beast is heavy. i pulled mine as a unit, and it works well to hook ratchet straps on the frame of the jeep (one on the front of the trans, and one on the back of the tcase), that way if it falls off the jack, it won't go all the way down.
this is a good way to put it back in without help, as well. it isn't easy or fast, but the straps make it a lot safer. now i'm just having a fit trying to line up the crossmember. seems like the transmission is about an inch too far back....
toyjeep
07-11-2010, 08:26 PM
When I installed the 435/203/205 in my junk I used an engine hoist through the transmission cover plate.
Roll it under, strap it up, lift it up ...
bowtieman55
07-11-2010, 08:26 PM
I wanna say the NP229 is around 90 pounds by itself. I'd guess roughly 200-250 lbs. with the transmission.
jeeper54
07-11-2010, 10:34 PM
Tried it once and will never do it again! Manual I had even said to take them out as a unit. I was lucky as that it fell away from me. The rachet straps sounds like a good idea.
Emupickle
07-12-2010, 12:02 AM
I've went the route of taking both out as a unit. I wouldn't recommend it if you only have a floor jack, but it can be streamlined. I borrowed a couple and used three floor jacks to manhandle it out and set it down. It was a handful but it saved time. I imagine if you have a tranny jack or a tranny cradle for a floor jack it wouldn't be too rough.
leostevo
07-12-2010, 01:12 AM
Thanks for all the insight. The only part I was really worried about is how the transfer case hangs way off to the side. I will look at how I could tie some straps around the frame to secure it but I may just end up pulling them separate.
I will post how I did it and anything I learned to make it easier.
DAHoyle
07-12-2010, 05:24 AM
It's a lot of weight, which isn't a huge problem if you have a tranny jack. The issue is that it is so unweildy. If you are on a good surface, and get everything ballanced ok, she'll come right out, but otherwise, you stand a chance of it tipping.
Last one I did, was on my back in the snow, and just lowering it down onto my chestin two pieces. Ice cold transmission fluid down your shorts isn't a lot of fun
leostevo
07-12-2010, 08:10 PM
Well, I ended up doing it in two pieces. Spilled fluid all over the place, even after dropping the pan enough for it to drain out. The tranny jack was a livesaver. I did end up needing to slide the tranny off of the jack onto some folded cardboard, it was too tall to fit under the frame rail on top of the jack. Now the tranny sits at the edge of the GW, waiting for me to have the energy to carry it about 60 yards to the back yard and sit it on a pallet. (We'll have to see how long that takes. . . )
Thanks for the advice, I can feel myself moving up the banana chart. I can't wait to rebuild that tranny.
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