New door panels, 20 gauge Aluminized Steel, see ad in HG vendors section

[Bill Moore]

Thinking of pressing out a few of these. based on M715 panels, but customized to FSJ specs. 20 ga Aluminized. Steel, should last a lifetime, paint to your liking or leave shiny. Tell me what you think, will have to sell them for 60 dollars a set plus shipping to make it worth while, and will have to make 25 sets to get the materials break. So Need to know what you think.

Going to mount a couple later on my sons truck and I will add those pics when it get accomplished. I deliberately didnt punch the armrest holes as they are different on the early and late trucks, some may not want or need arm rests.

[78J-10]

I would be interested in a set for my project. They look sweet lookin forward to pics on your sons truck :thumbsup:



-Mike

[highspdlife0224]

Oh yeah I'd definitely be interested in a set of em. Mine are crap.

[Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81]

Wouldnt these rattle on the metal doors over bumps? Unless maybe the person backs them with foam first.

[78J-10]

I have a friend who made some out of aluminum diamond plate and he put little rubber spacers between the panel and the door on each screw and they neve rattled. Just a thought.

[Bill Moore]

Wouldnt these rattle on the metal doors over bumps? Unless maybe the person backs them with foam first.

good question, I attached a set of thinner ones (29 gauge, would be more prone to rattling) to my sons truck with self tapping screws around the edge (bottom and sides). The top is held on by the moulding. I also put the plastic bushings back on underneath the handles, no rattle. I put about 8 screws per side, although that is probably over kill.

[florida]

sweet, I'll take a set!:thumbsup:

[billyrb]

only thing I'd worry about is on hot summer days......yeeeOWWW :)

[j4000 =)]

You should try to make them outta that stamped metal that would be sick

[Bill Moore]

only thing I'd worry about is on hot summer days......yeeeOWWW :)
Ill have to ask my son, although I havent heard him complain in the last year he has been using his in his Daily driver, and they are painted black. Since they are inside and dont get direct sun it may not be a problem. Just spoke to him, that has not been an issue for the past year he has had them on. Since they are thinner than the factory panels, he likes the way his doors shut easier as well, just a side benefit.

[jeeper54]

I made a similar pair for my 81 cherokee. I worked at a aerospace metal forming company at the time. Covered it in the original vinyl and used interior sheet metal screws & washers. Worked great and no rattles or getting hot. Knowing the cost of material and labor involved I think it's a good deal. :thumbsup:

[Bill Moore]

we were able to get them mounted, here are some pics

[kennewick]

What about 4 door Wags?

[Bill Moore]

What about 4 door Wags? if enough interest, I can have some made for the back doors as well. M715 is a possibility too.

[FSJ Guy]

I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet. But these are only for manual window doors. Power windows require a rectangular cutout for the switches.

[florida]

oh, I want a set of rears too, for my 4 door...:thumbsup:

[rmorit01]

Another advantage to these is the ability to "mount" a nice speaker in the door.

Just cut out the hole, in the right spot, and the speaker would drop right in.

I also like the option of attempting to re-cover with my current vinyl and cloth...It is the backing that is water damaged and they would last a lifetime.

I'd take a set of fronts for the cherokee -

[threepiece188]

only thing I'd worry about is on hot summer days......yeeeOWWW :)
I'd be concerned about cold winter days as well. I would expect metal panels like these would cunduct much more heat to the outside than the original panels.
Dan

[jeeping1974]

I built similar door panels a few years back for my J10 out of alum diamond plate. During the summer months they got warm but not hot to the touch.

[Bill Moore]

I'd be concerned about cold winter days as well. I would expect metal panels like these would cunduct much more heat to the outside than the original panels.
Dan

I spoke to my son about both of these questions, His response

"Maybe, but I didnt notice it was a problem," Keep in mind this is in Alabama

[kennewick]

I would buy a matching set of 4 doors and the two back panels for the cargo area and a cover for the rear door. :D

[Tigger4X]

These sure look mighty fine! I'd be interested in a set for a 4 door. The idea of being able to cover them with a thin foam and fabric like OEM is a good idea. You could also do the rhino liner stuff guys. Plenty of possibilities with Bill's creation here!! How difficult is it to have these done in something like a workable gauge of diamond plate :confused: Just another idea for a texture/finish look type of thing.

Oh yeah, I dont recall if you answered back about the electric window and/or mirror controls.

Thanks for a great upgrade for our FSJs!! :thumbsup:

[Red20]

I could use some of those. Mine are thin plywood painted black, lol. Don't think I could justify spending the money right now, but they sure look sweet! You know, I have a sheet of light gauge aluminum diamond plate lying around the garage somewhere and a drill press, hmmm...

-Josh USMC

[partywagon]

I'm with kennewick I'd like a full set for a wagoneer.

[florida]

I would buy a matching set of 4 doors and the two back panels for the cargo area and a cover for the rear door. :D

x2:thumbsup:

[Smiff]

I've thought about fabricating some panels for my waggy out of ABS, but seeing these makes me think twice.... Keep us posted.

[Bill Moore]

All very good input, thanks to everyone. Im not familiar with the rear doors and whether they changed, so research will have to be accomplished.

[carl andrews]

id sure be interested in a set for my waggo 4 dr

[j4000 =)]

id be interested for my J4000

[Tigger4X]

... and the two back panels for the cargo area and a cover for the rear door. :D


Oh Yeah! Gotta complete the look with the back cargo panels and tailgate!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Now I dont mind having to pop in my own holes for armrests or electric window controls, but if you were to pre-mark them as to where the buyer could DIY, it just might help some others order up. I know it'd take some research but you could fab up some patterns based on model and yearspans so all you'd hafta do is centerpunch where the drillin' needed to be done. That way you sell the "blanks" and could add a small charge to pre-mark the "special ordered" drillin' spots. Who knows, maybe go with a full "kit" that includes the screws and rubber gromets to keep the rattle away. :o Oooops, you already have a really cool mod and here I go spittin' my 2 cents. I'm gonna go take a coupla Soma and pass out now. lol

[kennewick]

Oh Yeah! Gotta complete the look with the back cargo panels and tailgate!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Now I dont mind having to pop in my own holes for armrests or electric window controls, but if you were to pre-mark them as to where the buyer could DIY, it just might help some others order up. I know it'd take some research but you could fab up some patterns based on model and yearspans so all you'd hafta do is centerpunch where the drillin' needed to be done. That way you sell the "blanks" and could add a small charge to pre-mark the "special ordered" drillin' spots. Who knows, maybe go with a full "kit" that includes the screws and rubber gromets to keep the rattle away. :o Oooops, you already have a really cool mod and here I go spittin' my 2 cents. I'm gonna go take a coupla Soma and pass out now. lol

Yeah It wouldn't make sense for me unless it was a package to consolidate the look. Would be a very nice upgrade!

[JeepBountyHunter]

Hey Bill, if I ordered a set would you put the armrest holes in it for me. (Thinking to use for my 63 J200).
Thanks
Aaron

[Logs0012]

These would look sweet diamond plate

[kwai]

I would take a couple of sets for M715's if you can make them.

[Cappicaper]

They would look really nice anodized and they make a bunch of different colors that would compliment the interiors. Not saying Bill should anodize them - but individuals could.

[Bill Moore]

Appreciate everyones input. Heres a recap of the comments

1. Front door panels are good, but some would like a full set for 4 doors
2. would like cuts or at least marks to accomadate electric windows. (did they put electrics in the back doors?)
3. For wags and Cherokees, would like panels for the cargo compartment
4. cut holes on request for the style of armrest.
5. 715 panels needed
6. Interest in Aluminum Diamond Plate


My Sons (they are members here) are helping me with this, in fact its their brainchild, I guess I am essentially helping them. So, heres what we want to do.

1. Will make the front door panels available right away.
2. Since we are already ready to go, we will also make a run of M715 panels (whatever the break is on materials vs setup)
3. Next step will be the rear doors, were there any changes through the years? I may have enough trucks here to cover most of the time periods.
4. If you desire the arm rest holes cut, we can do that, but I will have to come up with a way to deal with it. At first it will be extra, but later will try to roll it into the manufacturing process
5. Will take a swipe at the rear cargo area

Also, consider this before you punch holes in the panels, I am working on a replacement in cast Stainless Steel for the armrests, I hate plastic. They wont line up with the original mounting holes most likely. A little over 8 inches long from tip to tip, not for everyone, but how many have pulled off the chesy armrests when they closed the door too hard? heres a pic, they might be too expense for most, but I think I can make out at 60 bucks a set plus shipping. I know in my j truck the armrests are too low anyway and only serve as handles. As long as my source holds out, they run almost double new. These are good used.

[florida]

So where do I pay? :)

[rmorit01]

So where do I pay? :)

X2

[Smiff]

2. would like cuts or at least marks to accomadate electric windows. (did they put electrics in the back doors?)

Yep, switch panels for electric windows in front and back, for those that want electric.

[kennewick]

Time for a product price list!! Heck of a upgrade idea.

[j10jim]

Shipping costs would need to be thought about. Also what about Diamond plate (something thin that you can deal with). Anodizing polished diamond plate would look SWEET!

[Bill Moore]

Shipping costs would need to be thought about. Also what about Diamond plate (something thin that you can deal with). Anodizing polished diamond plate would look SWEET!

We will look into the diamond plate, stay tunned

[3nellieb]

well thats what i was going to be making myself but if someone else is than i'm in.i would want all 4 for my waggy and rear cargo area if making:thumbsup:

[Bill Moore]

Thanks again to all for the input. I will be posting an ad in the for sale section soon as the first run is available.

[Mars]

I would buy a matching set of 4 doors and the two back panels for the cargo area and a cover for the rear door. :D

Same! minus the back doors, 2 door Cherokee. Maybe Holes for speakers in the rear panels.

[Bill Moore]

Have the initial run ready, will post in the sale section shortly

[Tigger4X]

Hey Bill ....

Waiting with baited breath for your post in the For Sale section :thumbsup:

Another idear type brainfart here ... Wouldja couldja possibly do up a tailgate skin? One that would cover the tailgate inside so it faces up when the tailgate is down.

Too much time on my hands with a brain running Droid style. :rolleyes:

[Bill Moore]

Hey Bill ....

Waiting with baited breath for your post in the For Sale section :thumbsup:

Another idear type brainfart here ... Wouldja couldja possibly do up a tailgate skin? One that would cover the tailgate inside so it faces up when the tailgate is down.

Too much time on my hands with a brain running Droid style. :rolleyes:

tailgate skin for a wag or a j truck?

sorry for the delay, picked up 20 sets yesterday and My son is out of town at the moment, so a few details have to be settled before we are ready to take orders. Should be in the next day or so.

[Tigger4X]

I'd venture to say BOTH ... plenty of interest here to warrant the one for the wag/cherk and I'm sure plenny Jtrucks would line up. I'll start :thumbsup:

[Bill Moore]

I'd venture to say BOTH ... plenty of interest here to warrant the one for the wag/cherk and I'm sure plenny Jtrucks would line up. I'll start :thumbsup:

you are talking inside or outside skins? Outside would be beyond us at the moment, but later maybe. Inside would be flat at the moment.

We are looking at several other options, including the rear doors, and panels for wag and chero cargo area. As well as different materials.

[kennewick]

you are talking inside or outside skins? Outside would be beyond us at the moment, but later maybe. Inside would be flat at the moment.

We are looking at several other options, including the rear doors, and panels for wag and chero cargo area. As well as different materials.

Drool........:p

[Bill Moore]

ad now in home grown vendor section

[Tigger4X]

you are talking inside or outside skins? Outside would be beyond us at the moment, but later maybe. Inside would be flat at the moment.

We are looking at several other options, including the rear doors, and panels for wag and chero cargo area. As well as different materials.


Another idear type brainfart here ... Wouldja couldja possibly do up a tailgate skin? One that would cover the tailgate inside so it faces up when the tailgate is down.


Inside cover is what I shoulda said. Would be cool to be a complete cover over the entire tailgate inside a Wag/Chero, but even if it took the place of the removable panel it wold make a sweet accent piece. On J-truck tailgates it would be just a piece to cover the tailgate to keep it from being banged up kinda like the black piece that goes on it when you pop in a plastic bedliner.

I cant wait to see what these pieces look likein your for sale ad ... speaking of ... gotta go ..... check it oooouuutt!:thumbsup:

[Bill Moore]

Inside cover is what I shoulda said. Would be cool to be a complete cover over the entire tailgate inside a Wag/Chero, but even if it took the place of the removable panel it wold make a sweet accent piece. On J-truck tailgates it would be just a piece to cover the tailgate to keep it from being banged up kinda like the black piece that goes on it when you pop in a plastic bedliner.

I cant wait to see what these pieces look likein your for sale ad ... speaking of ... gotta go ..... check it oooouuutt!:thumbsup:


something to think about, Ill have to put together a poll to see whos interested, Thanks for all the orders! at this rate the 20 sets will be gone fast

[swampedge]

Bill, here are the pics of my factory metal interior panels.

[Bill Moore]

Bill, here are the pics of my factory metal interior panels.

Jim, Im no expert on Cherokees, but has anyone seen an interior set up like this?

Bill

[swampedge]

There was someone here that posted up before as this was discussed in some thread but it was a thread in a thread so it would be hard to find. I want to say there Cherokee was yellow. The person said they had the same panels as mine.
I believe mine was an Idaho school board truck originally and then was bought by a couple of teachers in Washington state where I bought it. My truck did come with regular door panels though. Jim

[Tigger4X]

Bill, here are the pics of my factory metal interior panels.


These look a lot like my '76 Chero but they were all black which kinda throws my memory a bit, but IIRC they are the same.

[Bill Moore]

got a better deal on the last order of stainless handles, so Im passing it on, see the vender section.

[Bill Moore]

Good news, we have worked out a better way to punch nice clean holes for the arm rests than before that are not as labor intensive. So we will be dropping the price on that extra. Also having a smooth panel is important for getting in and out without snagging on something. Ill make the changes in the vendor section.

[Bill Moore]

cutting the holes for speakers now available

[Bill Moore]

running a promotion for August on arm rest holes, see the vendor section

[Nooj]

Hi Bill-
Great idea with the panels. I like the idea of a simple, durable panel that an owner can customize to suit themselves.

As far as being too hot in summer/ letting heat out in winter- some of the peel and stick sound deadener/ insulation would be easy for someone to put on.
Also, anybody with a bead roller could add some simple accents or lines, if someone wanted to doll up the large flat areas. Just a thought, for those buyin 'em.

Good luck with the business! :thumbsup:

Nooj

[Bill Moore]

Hi Bill-
Great idea with the panels. I like the idea of a simple, durable panel that an owner can customize to suit themselves.

As far as being too hot in summer/ letting heat out in winter- some of the peel and stick sound deadener/ insulation would be easy for someone to put on.
Also, anybody with a bead roller could add some simple accents or lines, if someone wanted to doll up the large flat areas. Just a thought, for those buyin 'em.

Good luck with the business! :thumbsup:

Nooj

Appreciate the good words Nooj. We are working on wag back door panels to match and M715 panels. You can appreciate the smoothness of the panels if you accidently rub or hit them in the truck or getting in, they dont take a piece of hide with it. As far as we can tell they are no hotter than any other panel.

[3nellieb]

hows the rears comin for the waggys

[Bill Moore]

hows the rears comin for the waggys

actually they are on hold, the current demand doesnt justify the tooling and intitial run. if the economy ever picks up, could change

[blkwarrior]

When you decide to fire up the old press count me in for a full set for an 84 Waggy.

[Jjkage84]

Yeah, I'm not sure what Tcase I'm going to put back in there, probably just stick with the np229 that I'm hoping to buy from a member on here.

[Bill Moore]

update in the vendor section

[rmorit01]

I just wanted to show off my panels -

I put peal n seal on the side that faces the door for a little added sound deadening and bought the spray can bedliner and coated them.

I added the speaker hole and I really like how the speakers mount -

Very pleased with these!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/rmorit01/2011-05-13110723.jpg