New Full Size Jeep Magazine??

[GWDriver]

I remember the FSJ magazine, I remember Jeep Junkie magazine. Will there ever be a magazine again that caters to those of us who love these beasts?

I for one would love to see a magazine complete with photos, before & after, that showed nothing but projects that revive these beautiful machines. Ryan Hart had some really nice ones in Jeep Junkie magazine as I recall, really nice write ups, complete with good photos & super technical articles.

What do ya'll think, will it ever happen?

[lost1]

Well FSJs have definitely grown in popularity. A few years ago I was only vaguely familiar with what one was, and wouldn't have given a passing one more than a glance.

They're definitely growing in popularity though, so... only time will tell.

[Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81]

I sure hope not...then our rigs will turn into somthing like wranglers/broncos/K-5 Blazers (WAY over priced)

[GWDriver]

:D I sure hope not...then our rigs will turn into somthing like wranglers/broncos/K-5 Blazers (WAY over priced)

I should havbe clarified myself. In this new wonder magazine, "Only FSJs Need Apply".

:D

[Brizio]

I think it will never happen... Not to many people will read those magazines...

Would be nice have a magazine ONLY about FSJ, with story, project, stock FSJ, etc etc...

[Green Giant]

I think I read somewhere that to start a magazine correctly one should budget about a million dollars.:eek:
And that would be assuming a broad enough audience to be widely accepted. With a narrow focus like just FSJs, it would take someone with a passion and a large fortune that can stand the losses each and every issue. And an almost unlimited amount of time involved in putting each issue together.:banghead:
I just don't think such an endeavor is possible given time and monetary constraints and such.

[lkmarsh]

Magazines of that sort are supported by advertisers, not subscribers. How many FSJ parts suppliers are there? I'll take this forum, and whatever archived material I can find from other mags, and call it good!:D Oh, BTW, I'm with Heavy Metal, last thing we need is overexposure driving the prices through the roof. Like $8K for a 72 Bronco that needs everything. Thanks but No Thanks.

[Green Giant]

Magazines of that sort are supported by advertisers, not subscribers. How many FSJ parts suppliers are there? I'll take this forum, and whatever archived material I can find from other mags, and call it good!:D Oh, BTW, I'm with Heavy Metal, last thing we need is overexposure driving the prices through the roof. Like $8K for a 72 Bronco that needs everything. Thanks but No Thanks.
It's a trade-off, if they go up in popularity/price, then fewer will be scrapped, and aftermarket parts support may improve.
But the numbers originally produced are far fewer than the more popular models, so they will always be somewhat "rarer".

[RTFM]

I remember the FSJ magazine, I remember Jeep Junkie magazine. Will there ever be a magazine again that caters to those of us who love these beasts?

I for one would love to see a magazine complete with photos, before & after, that showed nothing but projects that revive these beautiful machines. Ryan Hart had some really nice ones in Jeep Junkie magazine as I recall, really nice write ups, complete with good photos & super technical articles.

What do ya'll think, will it ever happen?

He threw his lot in with an Australian magazine called Jeep Action Magazine:

http://www.jeepaction.com.au/


Here is a link to a free sample of the magazine:

http://digital.realviewtechnologies.com/default.aspx?cdn=0&xml=jeepaction.xml&iid=8225


It paints a too broad of a stroke on Jeeps - Willy's, FSJ, Postal, CJ, XJ, YJ, TJ.... etc.....

Occasionally there are one or two articles on FSJ - but nothing like Jeep Junkie.
(Which was a horrible wilting death to watch - especially for those that had subscriptions.... poor fellows)

[smartass_kid]

i think an online magazine would always be a good idea, it could be a forum supported thing. click the link below for an idea, one person could run it and people could submit pics and build ups for consideration. people who do well known trails could post their pics and groups could maybe pay for ad space to help with running it?
this is way out of my expertise but someone would good computer skills could do it.

http://www.deadendmagazine.com/home.html

[Chuck Brown]

i think an online magazine would always be a good idea, it could be a forum supported thing. click the link below for an idea, one person could run it and people could submit pics and build ups for consideration. people who do well known trails could post their pics and groups could maybe pay for ad space to help with running it?
this is way out of my expertise but someone would good computer skills could do it.

http://www.deadendmagazine.com/home.html

Wow! Thanks for that link, those are some of the nicest pics Ive ever seen.

Chuck Brown

[jeepdreamer]

Lifes evil, drooling, beady-eyed lapdog called money is why we don't have a FSJ dedicated rag. Add in the fact that the world as a whole has such instantanious access to information and I would say that *gasp* magazines and newspapers are destined for the grave. Between ever increasing postal rates (another institution knocking on deaths door) and the use of paper, fuel for delivery of heavy products, and the common waste due to unread issues...IMHO a magazine dedicated solely to anything is a lame horse living on borrowed time.
With that being said it does not mean that we as enthusiasts need to feel left out. How does one get their "fix" then you may ask. Well it starts so easy that if your reading this you have begun. Support you favorite websites. There are people that spend their time and effort to bring us these sites...And even though computer stuff is as foreign to me as a metric hammer...Even I am not dense enough to believe this (and all the others I haunt) site is self-supporting. Somewhere out there are people, dedicated men and women, putting forth their computer OZ like skills to offer us the oppertunity to enjoy.
When was the last time you thanked them? Have they ever come knocking on your door with their hand out saying "hi, I'm here to collect donations for the IFSJA"??? Not in my neck of the woods. Do they make money doing this? Maybe? I honestly don't have much of an idea how computer site people get paid. I am certain that in some way or fashion somebody, somewhere makes a living doing this type of stuff. But I would wager that most of the folks that handle out Jeep sites do it out of love.
So can one expect a FSJ exclusive magazine? I would doubt it. Unless one of us starts dating Bill Gates ugly daughter (does he have one?) and can get her to fund the dying venture...Even a Jeep only magazine is near impossible to push successfully. Case in point...JP magazine. I have been reading that magazine for...well, I think I have issues (of the magazine, not the other kind of issues...) going back easily to the late 80s? And while they have seen their fair (and occasionally unfair) share of abuse and nay-sayers...they are still putting forth the effort. But I guarentee they don't turn a huge profit! Why else would they be a part of an automotive comglomeration of magazines? How long would they have survived on their own?
So my thoughts are simple. I am thankful for the people that provide all the technical support and effort to maintain this site. If they choose to create a magazine version of it...*shrugs* ok...I'll check it out. But more than likely I will still be trolling these pages, learning up to the minute information and fulfilling my need for instant gratification via the web! Cheers!

[HD_JEEP]

We could do a newsletter of some sort in a PDF form and send it out to members interested. I'll help out. I am in the print business...:thumbsup:

If any one wants a sample let me know.

[sidewinder]

Amen Brother, Amen - Thanks

Lifes evil, drooling, beady-eyed lapdog called money is why we don't have a FSJ dedicated rag. Add in the fact that the world as a whole has such instantanious access to information and I would say that *gasp* magazines and newspapers are destined for the grave. Between ever increasing postal rates (another institution knocking on deaths door) and the use of paper, fuel for delivery of heavy products, and the common waste due to unread issues...IMHO a magazine dedicated solely to anything is a lame horse living on borrowed time.
With that being said it does not mean that we as enthusiasts need to feel left out. How does one get their "fix" then you may ask. Well it starts so easy that if your reading this you have begun. Support you favorite websites. There are people that spend their time and effort to bring us these sites...And even though computer stuff is as foreign to me as a metric hammer...Even I am not dense enough to believe this (and all the others I haunt) site is self-supporting. Somewhere out there are people, dedicated men and women, putting forth their computer OZ like skills to offer us the oppertunity to enjoy.
When was the last time you thanked them? Have they ever come knocking on your door with their hand out saying "hi, I'm here to collect donations for the IFSJA"??? Not in my neck of the woods. Do they make money doing this? Maybe? I honestly don't have much of an idea how computer site people get paid. I am certain that in some way or fashion somebody, somewhere makes a living doing this type of stuff. But I would wager that most of the folks that handle out Jeep sites do it out of love.
So can one expect a FSJ exclusive magazine? I would doubt it. Unless one of us starts dating Bill Gates ugly daughter (does he have one?) and can get her to fund the dying venture...Even a Jeep only magazine is near impossible to push successfully. Case in point...JP magazine. I have been reading that magazine for...well, I think I have issues (of the magazine, not the other kind of issues...) going back easily to the late 80s? And while they have seen their fair (and occasionally unfair) share of abuse and nay-sayers...they are still putting forth the effort. But I guarentee they don't turn a huge profit! Why else would they be a part of an automotive comglomeration of magazines? How long would they have survived on their own?
So my thoughts are simple. I am thankful for the people that provide all the technical support and effort to maintain this site. If they choose to create a magazine version of it...*shrugs* ok...I'll check it out. But more than likely I will still be trolling these pages, learning up to the minute information and fulfilling my need for instant gratification via the web! Cheers!

[billyrb]

Jeep Junkie was sold to Jeep Action, who now is supposedly going to test the waters and start incorporating US content. They are sending out mags to cover the subscriptions from what I'm told, but I've never been a part of the financial / ownership side. I just wrote for the rag. I still have some articles that are going to be submitted to the new owner, but I have no idea what they have in store, how long they'll be around, if they'll cover US FSJ content, etc.

[AMC-J/20]

Magazines of that sort are supported by advertisers, not subscribers. How many FSJ parts suppliers are there? I'll take this forum, and whatever archived material I can find from other mags, and call it good!:D Oh, BTW, I'm with Heavy Metal, last thing we need is overexposure driving the prices through the roof. Like $8K for a 72 Bronco that needs everything. Thanks but No Thanks.

To a point but if some body walked up to you with $12,000 in cash and said i want your FSJ as is ! i bet you'd take it . . .


Mike

[lost1]

Well sure... with money like that, I could buy a nicer one and still ahve money to fix it! :P

[GWDriver]

Magazines of that sort are supported by advertisers, not subscribers. How many FSJ parts suppliers are there? I'll take this forum, and whatever archived material I can find from other mags, and call it good!:D Oh, BTW, I'm with Heavy Metal, last thing we need is overexposure driving the prices through the roof. Like $8K for a 72 Bronco that needs everything. Thanks but No Thanks.

Yeah, I guess you're right. Still, I'd like to find a ready source of alphabetized, bound, articles. Hey, that's an idea. Collect all the articles & photos, produce an online 'book', available to just us guys & gals.

Sigh............................, I know, it'll never happen. It'd be nice though. :)

[GWDriver]

Lifes evil, drooling, beady-eyed lapdog called money is why we don't have a FSJ dedicated rag. Add in the fact that the world as a whole has such instantanious access to information and I would say that *gasp* magazines and newspapers are destined for the grave. Between ever increasing postal rates (another institution knocking on deaths door) and the use of paper, fuel for delivery of heavy products, and the common waste due to unread issues...IMHO a magazine dedicated solely to anything is a lame horse living on borrowed time.
With that being said it does not mean that we as enthusiasts need to feel left out. How does one get their "fix" then you may ask. Well it starts so easy that if your reading this you have begun. Support you favorite websites. There are people that spend their time and effort to bring us these sites...And even though computer stuff is as foreign to me as a metric hammer...Even I am not dense enough to believe this (and all the others I haunt) site is self-supporting. Somewhere out there are people, dedicated men and women, putting forth their computer OZ like skills to offer us the oppertunity to enjoy.
When was the last time you thanked them? Have they ever come knocking on your door with their hand out saying "hi, I'm here to collect donations for the IFSJA"??? Not in my neck of the woods. Do they make money doing this? Maybe? I honestly don't have much of an idea how computer site people get paid. I am certain that in some way or fashion somebody, somewhere makes a living doing this type of stuff. But I would wager that most of the folks that handle out Jeep sites do it out of love.
So can one expect a FSJ exclusive magazine? I would doubt it. Unless one of us starts dating Bill Gates ugly daughter (does he have one?) and can get her to fund the dying venture...Even a Jeep only magazine is near impossible to push successfully. Case in point...JP magazine. I have been reading that magazine for...well, I think I have issues (of the magazine, not the other kind of issues...) going back easily to the late 80s? And while they have seen their fair (and occasionally unfair) share of abuse and nay-sayers...they are still putting forth the effort. But I guarentee they don't turn a huge profit! Why else would they be a part of an automotive comglomeration of magazines? How long would they have survived on their own?
So my thoughts are simple. I am thankful for the people that provide all the technical support and effort to maintain this site. If they choose to create a magazine version of it...*shrugs* ok...I'll check it out. But more than likely I will still be trolling these pages, learning up to the minute information and fulfilling my need for instant gratification via the web! Cheers!

I do have to agree, we have some of the most giving people in the auto enthusiast world, if not in the entire world as members of the IFSJA site. We're a pretty diverse group, from around the world who happen to have a common love/hate relationship with, of all things, a truck.

I for one thank everyone who is a member of this site, just for being here.

[GWDriver]

Jeep Junkie was sold to Jeep Action, who now is supposedly going to test the waters and start incorporating US content. They are sending out mags to cover the subscriptions from what I'm told, but I've never been a part of the financial / ownership side. I just wrote for the rag. I still have some articles that are going to be submitted to the new owner, but I have no idea what they have in store, how long they'll be around, if they'll cover US FSJ content, etc.

Ryan, your articles in print were/are the best. Thanks for your personal help on a few issues I had, as well.

[HD_JEEP]

If there is an interest in a IFSJA newsletter I would be glad to layout and maintain the subscriptions. It would be in PDF format and then emailed to members who would like it. I could send a sample to you if you like.

Love my Jeeps and this forum. Thanks for all the work that goes in and maintains this addiction we have...:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Clint
aka HD_Jeep

[billyrb]

Larry, thanks for the kudos, it's been my pleasure. Hopefully I'll be able to write more in the future, just don't know what the future holds.

If the mags aren't in the line-up, I might start writing our own BJ's Newsletter articles covering installs / upgrades / etc. I'm somewhat burned out on most large-scale projects, as I've been doing them for about 7 years now. But the smaller-to-medium stuff is still keeping me happy.

[CarlBraun]

I've kept some of my old FSJ magazines and pull them out every year or so just to look them over.

These days I get my magazine fix from Hot Rod, Muscle Car Review and Hemmings. Whether you're working on a hemi cuda door panel or a ram air IV hood latch or a 65 Jeep rear tailgate its all the same. Keeps the interest alive and in print.

I have a membership to the Vintage Snowmobile Club of America and they have a monthly magazine that is one of those advertiser supported magazines...not a subscriber supported one. At the VSCA, they have relegated most of thier good articles to their website...I suggest we do the same here.

If we were to use the forum to post (more) articles all of us could benefit from them. Using a format like Hot Rod or MCR, the IFSJA forums could spotlight individual rides with pics and stories of where they were found and what has been done to them up to the time of the article.

On a related topic; a member or two have commented about the collector prices that are being paid for Broncos and K5 Blazers (and Toyota Land Cruisers). They, and anything else vintage is holding, or increasing, in value and are subjects of informative articles on keeping them increasing in value. Articles that focus on correct pieces and parts, engine and body codes, color codes and placement of factory markings are all designed to allow hobbyists and collectors to protect and improve their investments. I dont think this is the case with the IFSJA.

As is indicated by the vehicles in our members rides section it is clear that most of the IFSJA members are owners of 1980 and newer wagoneers and J trucks and do not visualize their rigs as "collectable". They should. My 65 wagoneer gets more looks and comments than my buddy Howard's old school K5 Blazer when we go to the river.

While I surely dont place a 65 Wagoneer in the same field as a Ram Air Pontiac or Hemicuda I do feel that all of our rigs will become more collectable and valuable in the future...just look at ebay to see what a a super clean 88-91 wagoneer is going for!!! The escalation is already starting. Wagonmasters top 10 late wagoneers on their site are well over $25K with 4 out of their top ten being SOLD or HELD at over $30,000...one at $45,000. Nice? yes. Low mileage? yes. But here are wagoneers that are selling for more than most collectable 60's muscle cars...car prices that are NOT effected by out crazy economy. K5 Blazers and 60's Broncos are peaking at $17K on ebay.

Think about it!

[RTFM]

Larry, thanks for the kudos, it's been my pleasure. Hopefully I'll be able to write more in the future, just don't know what the future holds.

If the mags aren't in the line-up, I might start writing our own BJ's Newsletter articles covering installs / upgrades / etc. I'm somewhat burned out on most large-scale projects, as I've been doing them for about 7 years now. But the smaller-to-medium stuff is still keeping me happy.
I agree - your articles were / are instrumental in what's going on with my 77' J-20 rebuild.

Should you decide to do a newsletter / online subscription / email newsletter - let me know - sign me up.

Thanks for your work - if it has not been said to you enough - it really did make a difference.
Good job.

:thumbsup:

[fulsizjeep]

I remember something about them...
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee184/jubileejeeps/ripfsjmag.jpg

[arclight]

Sign me up for any FSJ tech, articles or newsletter. My old Glady is teaching me alot. But there's always room for more info in this empty, bald head o'mine.

[jasonthomasfrance]

Hmmm...

Is there interest in this area? From the comments, there looks like there is some interest in something like a Magazine.

Is the interest in something to hold in your hands, i.e. Printed? Is it in a Central Online Place to go and read "professionally written/edited" articles?

Since I'm already coding GoFSJ.com, it wouldn't be too hard to build it into a Online Magazine style format. Maybe setup a Voting mechanism for whose jeep to nominate for the Monthly FSJ Highlight. Could stamp everything for Monthly Snapshots, i.e. have a locked Monthly Online Magazine...

Could also go looking for permission to re-publish some of the Build/Tech write-ups posted on IFSJA and other forums for a Monthly Tech Crunch.

Have a small Garage Tips section that could have weekly or more updates...

I've wanted to redeem www.FullSizeJeeps.com (http://www.FullSizeJeeps.com) for quite some time. Perhaps this is the avenue?

[jasonthomasfrance]

How about this as an example:

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/zine.htm

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/zine.jpg

[biotex]

I think it would most definately have to at least start out as an online publication. Too many costs associated with something in print. Once advertisers are lined up, who knows...

I would be willing to help out. I think it is a great idea, and the talent is already here!

[jeepdreamer]

I have to agree that a printed version is not really cost effective. I've mentioned before all my thoughts pertaining to the US Postal system, Newspapers, and printed media as a whole. Dying breed. And growing more expensive daily.
But being one of limited (Very Limited!:o ) computer savvy..Maybe there would be a way to either format the "magazine" so subscribers could print (nice print...not junky/cheap print) their own and keep them in a binder or whatever? Or maybe some way to save them to a hard drive (external) or disc thingies...? Something that allows quick search for articles would be handy...I am always thumbing through old Jeep/truck based magazines looking for a particular article...And usually by the time I find it I forgot what I was looking for!:eek:

[fulsizjeep]

You might be on to something good Jason. :cool:

[jasonthomasfrance]

That format I laid out above should be conducive for printing on an 8x10 page, for those that would want to.

I think for the 3 main categories (Featured Jeep, Garage Tip, Tech Specs) there could be monthly voting by the general population for their interest items. i.e. People would Submit and then Vote for the Rig they wanted to see/know more about. Submit a Tech Writeup idea then vote for the Tech Spec write up they are most interested in:like replace sway bar, fab up a bumper, etc... Submit a short Garage Tip, and the Vote for which one they want elaborated on...

Say the magazine gets "Published" online on the 1st of the month, submissions and voting would begin immediately for the next month's publication. Voting would close on the 15th (-ish). Winning candidates/ideas would be contacted and return a short questionnaire by the 20th. Editors would compile/review/edit/follow-up by the 30th. Publication would go live on the 1st again. Rigs/Write-ups would be limited to 1-3 normal size 8x10 pages. Process would start over. All the material gathered for that month's magazine would be archived so people could still view what rigs/ideas were submitted/voted on for that month's edition.

All that Idea/Rig Submission & Voting & Questionnaires & Editing would be done Online via the Database.

Would definitely need support in Follow-Up & Editing categories. I think we have enough ideas floating around that we could all vote a winner up easily enough.

[woodfar]

I think maybe this is it, only online. What more could we need? Mags just clutter up the house.

[whowey]

I think maybe this is it, only online. What more could we need? Mags just clutter up the house.


Its kinda hard to drag the monitor into the bathroom though....:D