Third row bench seat?

[retro'90]

Has anyone installed a third row seat in a Grand Wagoneer? I'd like to find something that will fit, be easy to install, with seat belts. Any ideas?

Signed,

Guy with 5 kids. :D

[Wagonforever]

I've seen one where they simply installed another wagoneer seat in the back, the belts just bolt to the floor. I though would sugest a Suburban as a man with 4 kids, more room for everybody. With a wag with 3 rows I doubt you'll have ANY cargo room.

[rustywagoneers_com]

Has anyone installed a third row seat in a Grand Wagoneer? I'd like to find something that will fit, be easy to install, with seat belts. Any ideas?

Signed,

Guy with 5 kids. :D

I am exactly the sort of person who contemplates things like this.

I have been measuring, collecting photos, reading reviews, and checking prices of everything imaginable in order to do something like this.

I have been looking at jump seats (think old land rover 10 and 12 passenger 109's and 110's). I have looked at bumping the roof upward (and outward if necessary) in order to accomodate the jump seats.

I know certain other businesses were selling a third row rear seat for wagoneers. It installed behind the regular reat seat, faced forward, included seat belts, and cost a LOT of money.

I *THINK* I have come to the best plan for a 9-passenger FSJ, though. (and it's not a smart-aleck answer like 'two escort wagons' either).

I recently sat in the third row of a Honda Pilot, just to know how much (or little) room they actually have. There isn't much room in that row AT ALL. And I am only 5'7". What I did after testing that fit - is I took the normal rear seat out of it's usual location, and put it in, facing rearward, through the tailgate. (sorta like my grandpa's old ford LTD station wagon)
That is about as much rear seat room as the Honda had. Now, if you make a custom tailgate that is split (upper section hinges up, lower section on normal hinges) much like the fellow with the white wagon that has been bobbed on here- screen name escapes me at the moment. You could do it, with all stock Jeep seats, have room for 9, and get rid of your tailgate problems.

OR, cargo type doors....

The custom gate would be configured to:
1; be VERY strong in an accident, transfering forces to the frame, rather than allowing the rear to crumple.
2; give more foot room than the normal gate. The normal gate is very 'thick' in cross section. The new gate would be more hollow, and might not follow the exact body lines, compromising them for foot/leg room.

Hope this is of some use to you.

:fsj:

[Wagonforever]

Actually one other thought I've had is to mount 2 wagoneer front seats in the middle (stock rear seat location) and then move the bench all the way to the back. This would give you an 8 passenger (7 comfortably) and there'd still be an easy way to the back between the center seats. My mom had a Startcraft converted Sububan back in the 80's set up this way and it worked very well with all 6 of us.

[silvercert]

This guy does it......

http://www.wagoneerworld.com/optionsupgrades.php

[Songman]

I kinda like the idea of a rear facing seat. I don't think I would worry about all those other changes though. Just mount a stock seat in there sitting back to back with the other one. From the pictures posted from Wagoneer World, it looks like you would have more room sitting backwards than they do forwards. Of course, the only issue would be people hitting their heads together.

[Wayne]

If you move the spare, you might be able to make
a footwell for a rear facing seat.

[Casey]

Buy a Suburban.

Wheel the waggy. :fsj:

[newtojeeps]

How would you get back there? Would really be hard if your rear window sort of works all the time. :rolleyes:

[retro'90]

we've got the Suburban already. I want to take everybody wheelin'. :drivin:

[Songman]

Yeah, a working rear window would sort of be a requirement I guess! Or you could do like we did when we were kids and just go tumbling across the seats into the back. That's what we did in my grandmother's old Chrysler station wagon.