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vintagetrks
04-16-2010, 06:08 AM
Hi I've been trying to get a bad freeze plug out of my cylinder head. Anyone got any tips on how to get that sucker out? It's givin me a very hard time. :banghead:
duncanstives
04-16-2010, 07:19 AM
I would suggest drilling a hole in it except you might get metal bits in the coolant passage... Try drilling ti not quite all the way though with an electric drill and then very carefully finishing the hole with a hand drill or electric drill at very low speed making sure that none of the shavings go into the hole.
Once you have a hole you can stick something in there to pull on it.
tgreese
04-16-2010, 07:28 AM
Punch a hole in it, and lever it out.
HellCreek
04-16-2010, 07:31 AM
I have always just used a punch and a hammer. If you punch it near the edge, it will swivel, and you can pull it out with pliers.
-Tom
Casey
04-16-2010, 08:08 AM
x3
I use a screwdriver...one that clearly says "not for use as prybar or chisel", drive it trough and pry it out. ;)
jfouraker
04-16-2010, 11:41 AM
I had the best luck punching a hole near the edge, then prying them out with my Lisle seal puller.
vintagetrks
04-16-2010, 09:44 PM
x3
I use a screwdriver...one that clearly says "not for use as prybar or chisel", drive it trough and pry it out. ;)
Casey I've been prying on that stubborn little brass plug for a week. I'm about to put a block of C4 to it. LOL I have 3 bent up screw drivers and the darn thing has'nt budged. I got the hole so walloed out it just looks like a bullet hole now. Have you ever used a hacksaw blade to cut through the brass to help pop it out?
vintagetrks
04-16-2010, 09:46 PM
I have always just used a punch and a hammer. If you punch it near the edge, it will swivel, and you can pull it out with pliers.
-Tom
I'll give that a try. Thanks for the tip. :thumbsup:
Casey
04-17-2010, 06:44 AM
Casey I've been prying on that stubborn little brass plug for a week. I'm about to put a block of C4 to it. LOL I have 3 bent up screw drivers and the darn thing has'nt budged. I got the hole so walloed out it just looks like a bullet hole now. Have you ever used a hacksaw blade to cut through the brass to help pop it out?
Try a seal puller as jfouraker said. One of those will even cut through the dang thing. ;)
Or get a roll of det. cord, a blasting cap and a mattress to hide behind! :D
fulsizjeep
04-17-2010, 06:51 AM
Most come out for me like Tom described.
I know this doesn't help but I just hate it when I pop out a freeze plug and find an old rotten one that had been jammed in the hole and just covered with another. That just sets me off right there. good golly moogley :banghead:
Etcetera
04-17-2010, 12:51 PM
I don't even know how many times I've found old ones sitting in the holes or in engine blocks. Lazy mechanics or lazy PO's? Who knows but it's a pain.
Most come out for me like Tom described.
I know this doesn't help but I just hate it when I pop out a freeze plug and find an old rotten one that had been jammed in the hole and just covered with another. That just sets me off right there. good golly moogley :banghead:
novacayne75
04-17-2010, 07:03 PM
i know it sounds crude but i have just knocked them back into the hole and left them their. if its a brass plug why are you changing it ? im sure it not rust.
highspdlife0224
04-17-2010, 07:38 PM
I just recently went through my heads and found the best method to be a socket (1/2 or so) on a 3/8 drive extension. a couple whacks with that and she moved enough to pry it out with a pair of needle nose.
vintagetrks
04-17-2010, 08:02 PM
I got the sucker out. Woot. Thanks to you guys and your helpful tips. Now I just have to find the 1in brass replacement plug for it.
Casey I thought of you when I went to the local Vatozone and they tried to sell me one of those rubber plugs. LOL I remember a while back you were telling me how well they worked. hehehe.
Can anyone tell me where the 1in freeze plugs for a 360 can be found?
jsinajeep
04-17-2010, 09:22 PM
The NAPA store usually carry them or can order them.
highspdlife0224
04-17-2010, 09:27 PM
The NAPA store usually carry them or can order them.
If not, I've got an extra set you can have. :thumbsup:
vintagetrks
04-17-2010, 09:32 PM
Try a seal puller as jfouraker said. One of those will even cut through the dang thing. ;)
Or get a roll of det. cord, a blasting cap and a mattress to hide behind! :D
Thought about the det cord, but figured a blasting cap would probably do the job. Can't go wasting good det cord to many uses for the stuff. LOL
Got it out though the fourth screw driver was the charm. It was a pretty tough little bogger. I wonder what put the hole in it. I've never seen one with a hole in it as brass does'nt rust so I'm wondering how it got there in the first place.
vintagetrks
04-17-2010, 09:34 PM
If not, I've got an extra set you can have. :thumbsup:
Got a part number off the Napa web site I'm gonna give them a call Monday and see if they have them in stock if so I'll have them delivered to me at work. But thank you for the generous offer.
highspdlife0224
04-17-2010, 09:46 PM
Got a part number off the Napa web site I'm gonna give them a call Monday and see if they have them in stock if so I'll have them delivered to me at work. But thank you for the generous offer.
Of course! :drivin: good luck with it!
vintagetrks
04-24-2010, 05:54 PM
Well finally got a replacement BRASS freeze plug and got it put in. Filled the radiator with $14.00 of fresh anti freeze and fired it up. She got to operating temp and was actually running pretty good. Then I notice fluid draining under the vehicle so I take a look and it the big freeze plug on the back of the engine on the passengers side that has now blown.:banghead:
Now I'm gonna have to pull the engine to replace it :mad: . I'm so pissed this jeep is fighting me the whole way. I'm about ready to find a good running donor engine and tranny combo and just give it a heart transplant.
Etcetera
04-24-2010, 06:27 PM
On an old truck I cut an access panel to change a rear freeze plug. Made up an oversized patch and attached the removed piece of firewall to it with some spot welds and fastened the whole thing back to the firewall.
vintagetrks
04-24-2010, 09:07 PM
On an old truck I cut an access panel to change a rear freeze plug. Made up an oversized patch and attached the removed piece of firewall to it with some spot welds and fastened the whole thing back to the firewall.
Good idea. I might just do that. Were you able to cut through from the interior of the vehicle or did you plasma cut it from the firewall?
Etcetera
04-24-2010, 09:14 PM
Good idea. I might just do that. Were you able to cut through from the interior of the vehicle or did you plasma cut it from the firewall?
I cut through from the interior, used a big holesaw. Probably 3.5 or 4" diameter. I haven't looked at a fsj to see if there is anything in the way. Measure 100x, cut once :)
vintagetrks
04-24-2010, 10:02 PM
I cut through from the interior, used a big holesaw. Probably 3.5 or 4" diameter. I haven't looked at a fsj to see if there is anything in the way. Measure 100x, cut once :)
I would probably have to remove the heater and AC units but thats probably easier than pulling the motor. ;)
billyrb
04-25-2010, 07:16 AM
as much of a pain as it is, I prefer to replace them all at the same time. Also use some high-temp gasket sealer around the mating surface as that helps prevent excess leaks, especially if the surface is a little irregular / if there is a scratch from a previous removal.
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