Pilot bushing, how far does it go in?

[Glenn_tx]

Alright, I'm finally getting around to swapping in the T18. Putting in a pilot bushing where there was none before, does it go in all the way flush with the crank end? I got it to within about 1/4" of being flush and it doesn't seem to want to go any further. Does this sound right?

[Jeep Craze]

It should go flush w/ the end of the crank. I use a socket of the proper size and hammer and make it go in. Also did you check the pilot bushing on the end of the trans shaft first to make sure it is the right one. I had put one in and once it was all back together is when I noticed there was a vibrating when the clutch was pushed in. Took everything apart again and found it was too loose on the input shaft which caused wable. So I ended up getting another (proper) TB and everything is perfect. Make sure you grease the input shaft(the part that rides in the TB) When the TB is on the input shaft there should be next to no movement side to side but still be able to spin it freely. Hope this helps. Craig

[Glenn_tx]

Checked it on the input shaft, we're good there. Thanks for the tip on the grease. Guess I'll get a bigger hammer, and I was using a socket to go between the bushing and the hammer.
Thanks.

[Glenn_tx]

Okay, I pounded it pretty good, got it to within about 1/8". I'm afraid to hit it anymore. It looks like there is plenty of room on the input shaft, about another 1/2" to work with. Think that will be okay?

[kyjman]

I think the 1/8" is fine.....heres a tip for when you want to take the PB out the next time....Instead of filling the cavity with grease as recommended....use plain old bread.....pack it in there good and tight and it works just as good and a whole lot less mess.....then use the dowel or same size rod to pound it out. Worked like a charm for me the last time.

[Glenn_tx]

Bread? Pound it out with a dowel? I figured you'd need a puller to remove it.

[kyjman]

When removing a pilot bushing from the crank the manual says to pack it with grease and use a dowel or metal rod the size of the tranny input shaft, and pound the bushing out. The grease makes a tight seal and creates a hydrolic pressure and forces the bushing out. Bread will do the same just less mess.

[Glenn_tx]

Ohhh! Interesting. Bread has many good uses. I use it alot when I'm sweating pipes (plumbing), roll up a clump and jam it un the end of the pipe. Keeps water from getting to the joint before you can heat it up.

When I intall the tranny, should I fill the cavity with grease or just put a light coat on the input shaft?

[ January 20, 2003, 04:38 PM: Message edited by: GlennTX ]

[Jeep Craze]

Yeah I wasn't talking about useing grease for removal purposes Kyjman ,I was saying to apply some grease to the input shaft for lubrication purposes. Actually behind (in front of actually) the tip of the input shaft that cavity in the end of the crank, I have always packed w/ grease to help in the self lubrication for a few years(believe me, i have noticed a difference between no lube and some lube on the pilot bushings over the years.

Also Glenn Tex: In my first post, I menat PB not TB. There shoudl be very little movement on the pilot bushing side to side. It is also aa good Idea to apply just alil grease to the inside of the throwout bearing....where it contacts the input shaft and also on the pivot points where the fork touches the actual throw out bearing. Sorry for any confussion. Craig

P.s- I am not sure what he was talking ab\out useing bread for????? Because everytime I have ever removed a Pilot bushing, I have used a slide hammer tool w/ a hook on it!

[kyjman]

Hey jeepcraze....the slide hammer with a hook is the best way...but when none are owned or handy pack the bushing with bread, find something round and about the size of the input shaft, then place the round thingie to the bread and pound with hammer...it forces the bushing out. I figured you meant greasing the shaft....however you can put an oilwick in the bushing(soaked with oil) and it lubes the bushing for a long time. I have always greased them and not used an oil wick....