Perfect car for a snowicane!

[uglyjeepling]

Wire magazine is giving the GWs huge props here!

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/03/perfect-snowicane-cars/8/

Sweet!

Oh and the Eagle to. I saw it after i posted.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/03/perfect-snowicane-cars/10/

Funny they call a hoopty. haha

[duncanstives]

Cool to see the positive coverage but grand wagoneers DID have leather and probably cost close to 74K in 2010 dollars. Can't argue with the capibility though :D

The site they suggested "grandwagoneers.com" has some REALLY nice looking waggies... I shudder to think how much they would cost but they do look nice.

[Lindel]

You guys should read the comments! Lotsa stupid answers and proof that most haven't driven ANY FSJ.

[duncanstives]

You guys should read the comments! Lotsa stupid answers and proof that most haven't driven ANY FSJ.

Why did I follow your suggestion?!

Internet idiocy makes me head want to explode.

[rustywagoneers_com]

Why did I follow your suggestion?!

Internet idiocy makes me head want to explode.

I e-mailed the author of the article the following:


I am writing you to defend your choices regarding the AMC Eagle, and even moreso, the Jeep Wagoneer.

I have been reading a few of the comments that readers have posted in response to your article, and I am willing to state with certainty, that the number of people among those commentators who have ACTUALLY driven more than 10 miles in either of those 2 vehicles can be counted on the various digits of one human body.

I have a disease. I am a hopeless addict to Jeep Wagoneers (and Full-Size Cherokees, and Full-Size Jeep Pickups). I have owned several dozen. I literally own 8 right now. Most of them even run. I am a 40 yr old man who is an absolute machine addict. I love machines. I spend my days designing machines, and trying to improve the designs of machines. I have owned over 70 vehicles. Alfa Romeos, MGs, Mercedes, every marque in the GM range (iirc- let me get back to you), Mustangs, Volare wagon (puke metallic green with woodgrain), IHC trucks, and a Fiat 850 spider. I have worked for 20-plus years on automobiles, medium and heavy trucks, and everything in between. I taught my children to weld at age 10 (2 more to go, one daughter very near welding age). Several times a year we will load everybody up in one of our Wagoneers, drive 300 miles south, abuse said Wagoneer in mud, dirt, and rocks, and then drive it home. Once or twice a year I will have my local library borrow for me (on inter-library-loan) a copy of Sir Harry Ricardo's magnificent treatise 'The High-Speed Internal Combustion Engine' whereupon I will engage in impure thoughts about Knight Sleeve-Valve engines. My bathroom reading includes MIT's 2 volume set of engine design in theory and practise. All this just by way of illustrating who I am, and wager that my opinion of the construction and attributes of a vehicle have more weight than most of your commentators.

Though the Jeep Grand Wagoneer is a fine machine in the snow, the pre-1979 versions (no 'Grand' in the name at the time) were the ultimate. Due in no small part to the much-maligned 'Quadra-Trac' (Borg Warner 1339) transfer case. It is an absolute dream to drive on snowy roads. When the center differential is locked, it is robust enough for any tire size that will fit the stock wheelwells, and therefore - it is as good as any truck around - plus it has far better weight bias than ANY pickup (fabled Hi-Lux or no). When the transfer case is not locked, the center differential is a limited slip type, which gives it a significant advantage over similar-era Big-Three vehicles with the NP203 full-time transfer case (open center differential).
Your dear readers who seem to think that electronically modulated clutch-pack transfer cases (a'la Suburban/Escalade/etc) could never possibly fail, have clearly decided that you are out of the loop. If they are the loop, count me out, too. Happily, even if they are the loop, they are a zillion miles past wrong. How often we forget that the majority can be wrong.

This e-mail is past long enough already, suffice it to say, whether you have ever owned or logged any real bad-weather miles in an Eagle or a Wagoneer, you were absolutely right in giving them praise. What a shame for these people to forget their own history so quickly, and judge so harshly what they have never known or touched.

By the way, would you like to buy a nice Jeep Grand Wagoneer?

[Lindel]

:thumbsup:

[suzq044]

Lol, love the last line of your letter, didn't see it coming.

[CJ the noisemaker]

(Posted by: russsmith118 | 03/1/10 | 9:10 pm |
really? no jeep wrangler? i mean the wagoneer was good and all but the wrangler is far more superior)

SCREW YOU AND YOUR YJ, or what ever you call that tin can Po'S Fiat.

Ok, I'm done venting. GW and Eagle FTW

and also, these are what you also call people with too much time on their hands, that or internet trolls.

[uglyjeepling]

Nice post! I wish my 79 still had the proper QT in it not the part time kit. Its just to hard to find parts to make it LS again.:(

WTH I cant believe someone would talk the Wrangler up in the snow. Its way to short to be more stable on a snowy road. it fishes all over the place way too easy. People.

[Gambler68]

I sort of miss the FT QT during the winter time, but I prefer it the other 3 seasons, such as they are in CO. Feel like driving a ticking timebomb with a stock case, and I have a heavy gas pedal foot.

Far as I'm concerned, the masses can stick with the modern rigs..less people wanting FSJs, the better ;) :thumbsup:

[GWDriver]

I have to say, I really fell in 'love' with the AMC Eagle when they first came out. I lived in PA at the time and watched my neighbors park on top of the snow plows mound. These machines never got stuck. Alas, I was a poor, broke, Marine with little income at the time.:(

[Frank]

Hehehe... We're being saluted! Hehehe....

Finally!

[freeincolorado]

(Posted by: russsmith118 | 03/1/10 | 9:10 pm |
really? no jeep wrangler? i mean the wagoneer was good and all but the wrangler is far more superior)

SCREW YOU AND YOUR YJ, or what ever you call that tin can Po'S Fiat.

Ok, I'm done venting. GW and Eagle FTW

and also, these are what you also call people with too much time on their hands, that or internet trolls.
Take a deep breath... it's ok... some people just don't understand the awesomness of the FSJ.:cool:

[freeincolorado]

My vote goes to this bad boy.:thumbsup:
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad345/freeincolorado/ThuMar18150914MDT2010.jpg