WHY NO BUILD THREAD????? CONTINUED!!!!!!

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Well, since you decided to close the last thread (and im sure everyone was NOT finished with) I figured I would start a new one.

So I still don't get why you can't add it?

You OBVIOUSLY know how to close a thread. But, you can't make a new section? Why not just give it a try? If it doesn't work out then close it? Is that too much to ask? Or why not have a pole? Let us the members vote and decide. But no you choose to close the old thread on this topic due to "we the admins don't want a "build up thread" ". Well, quite frankly it shouldn't be up to you. It should be up to the members. . . Your job as an admin is to monitor the site for harmful/out of line things and to keep it in order. Allowing your own opinion to get in the way of what the members want is what i have a problem with. Go ahead and close this thread like the last one. Im sure you will.

Kyle

[duncanstives]

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff40/maskedstranger2007/icon_popcorn.gif

[jMedia]

Really? You have 14 posts and your saying this? If they don't wanna do it they don't wanna do it. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Heckofadeal]

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff40/maskedstranger2007/icon_popcorn.gif

yeah me too!

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Really? You have xx posts and your saying this? If they don't wanna do it they don't wanna do it.

Why does the amount of post i have matter? That has no bearing on this topic??

[jMedia]

Why does the amount of post i have matter? That has no bearing on this topic??

because your obviously new here telling admins how they should run the forum.

[fulsizjeep]

do eye see this right?
is that avatar a ch*vy? :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/dolo_amber/poopcorn.gif

[BlackrockMotorSports]

do eye see this right?
is that avatar a ch*vy? :lol:

Wait don't you have a th400 in your jeep? Look on your tranny pan tell me what it says . . . . ."GM PRODUCT" :thumbsup:

The only thing "Chevy" on my truck is the cab, motor and tranny.

[BlackrockMotorSports]

because your obviously new here telling admins how they should run the forum.

Ever think the admins have never been on other forums before? Sometimes outsourcing ideas works . . . .

[fulsizjeep]

then I don't get it man... you got no dadgum Jeep and you wanna change this FSJ forum? c'mon man... :grumble:

[BlackrockMotorSports]

then I don't get it man... you got no dadgum Jeep and you wanna change this FSJ forum? c'mon man... :grumble:

No but IM assisting a friend in rebuilding one. Plus, I like to see what guys come up with and give them props on their hard work. These fullsizes are the only jeep products i like.

[fulsizjeep]

everyone has a tune they groove to I guess... :huh:
you got some progress pix for us to drool on? ;)
good luck

[Artisan]

http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/cop.gif http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/rules.gif http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/read.gif http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/admin.gif http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/wavebye.gif

[YellowJeep]

The guy has a point even though he is about as suttle as a sledgehammer. The board is for and about all the members, not just the members who run the board. If members feel this is something they want, it should be addressed better than just closing up a post and saying no.

This is coming from someone who has been here for here nearly 3 years and contributes regularly to technical conversations.

This is my opinion, ignore it if you don't like it.

[Cecil14]

The board is actually RUN by members. ;) I would be very surprised if they didn't discuss the issue at length before closing the other thread.

The comment on the admins being members of other forums is extremely valid...they try to keep this board as neat and efficient as possible so everyone can search and find things easily. They don't do that by not paying attention. They keep an eye on what works and what doesn't, both here and elsewhere. I've seen a lot of boards with a LOT of stagnant sections. If it doesn't get used there's no point in taking up that space.

I'm not judging whether or not a build forum could be good or bad, I've no preference here. I agree with what Tad said in the other thread that build threads tend to die off. It'd be great if they could all be archived with pics and all forever, but it just doesn't happen that way.

The admins made their decision...if you have issue with that I very much suggest you PM on of them, I'm sure they would be happy to discuss it with you. Trying to hold a protest in a post is a bad way to go about this. ;)


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[Jeepstress]

Well, since you decided to close the last thread (and im sure everyone was NOT finished with) I figured I would start a new one.

So I still don't get why you can't add it?

You OBVIOUSLY know how to close a thread. But, you can't make a new section? Why not just give it a try? If it doesn't work out then close it? Is that too much to ask? Or why not have a pole? Let us the members vote and decide. But no you choose to close the old thread on this topic due to "we the admins don't want a "build up thread" ". Well, quite frankly it shouldn't be up to you. It should be up to the members. . . Your job as an admin is to monitor the site for harmful/out of line things and to keep it in order. Allowing your own opinion to get in the way of what the members want is what i have a problem with. Go ahead and close this thread like the last one. Im sure you will.

Kyle

If you so badly want a build forum then please put together a detailed proposal of said forum, rules and administration, the qualifying parameters and submit it to me. I will take it to the mods and admin and if it seems feasible we will make you the moderator of said forum and you can make it happen. Of course, we will expect you to moderate it daily and clean it up and merge and delete posts as necessary. Sounds good to me! When can I expect your proposed outline?

Oh, yes... and I expect you to provide a detailed reference to your FSJ experience from 1962 to 1991, including the engines, body types, special editions, common AMC quirks and common mods to verify your expertise in moderating said forum. Easy stuff man. Just PM me your proposal. I'm glad you are so enthusiastic in taking on this project!

And, sweetie, poll doesn't have an "e" in it.

[Murphy]

Well, since you decided to close the last thread (and im sure everyone was NOT finished with) I figured I would start a new one.

So I still don't get why you can't add it?

You OBVIOUSLY know how to close a thread. But, you can't make a new section? Why not just give it a try? If it doesn't work out then close it? Is that too much to ask? Or why not have a pole? Let us the members vote and decide. But no you choose to close the old thread on this topic due to "we the admins don't want a "build up thread" ". Well, quite frankly it shouldn't be up to you. It should be up to the members. . . Your job as an admin is to monitor the site for harmful/out of line things and to keep it in order. Allowing your own opinion to get in the way of what the members want is what i have a problem with. Go ahead and close this thread like the last one. Im sure you will.

Kyle

Start your own build thread in the proper forum and put a link to it in your sig. Simple & Effective. What is so hard to understand about that?

[babywag]

This forum is a good place, and has some great people, but....

It *is* sorely lacking compared to other automotive forums.

Most have many many different forums for each topic, sadly only a few here.

Your tone won't get anything accomplished here other than a timeout, or a flat out ban.

I suggested a simple addition for a vehicles only forum in the classifieds.
Never went anywhere:confused:


Many people have made good suggestions, most just wither away and die.
EDIT:
This is a primary reason that the same questions get asked over and over and over and over and over again.
Because everything is lumped into a "general" forum that can include just about anything.

Divide it up, into use-able specific subforums and this doesn't happen because people could find info easier.

[mattmopar440]

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff40/maskedstranger2007/icon_popcorn.gif

do eye see this right?
is that avatar a ch*vy? :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/dolo_amber/poopcorn.gif

you should post hey yall watch this!!!! first then start rant against admins :rolleyes:

[Metal Twister]

If the 39th post on the other thread was posted early on I think things would have been understood a little easier. By letting it go I think the admin was hoping it would die... it didnt... it was killed...:cool:

[shiner2001]

Wait don't you have a th400 in your jeep? Look on your tranny pan tell me what it says . . . . ."GM PRODUCT" :thumbsup:

The only thing "Chevy" on my truck is the cab, motor and tranny.

Haha, apparently it's Chevy enough for you to list it as such in your signature. And no offense, but I tend to take a little less technical advice from someone who, signature wise, decides that the most important thing to tell us about their truck is the amount of lift down to the 1/2". Sorry, just don't feel the need to measure. But whatever works for you man; to each his own.

And surely you've heard the old adage that one catches more flies with sugar than with vinegar. Now, I never understood why one would want to catch flies, but I understood the point.

And Flint, hahahahaha you idiot!!! I can't believe you didn't know you had a GM tranny in your Jeep!!!!! have you ever even BEEN UNDER a Jeep?????? I bet you would have known that if you could have looked it up in a build thread. :rolleyes: ;)


Plus, I like to see what guys come up with and give them props on their hard work.

Another observation....you don't exactly seem like the "complimentary" type, but I don't know you, so I could be wrong. Just basing my opinion on what I've seen, just like everyone else....

Soapbox is open...next.

[jMedia]

This is a primary reason that the same questions get asked over and over and over and over and over again.
Because everything is lumped into a "general" forum that can include just about anything.

Divide it up, into use-able specific subforums and this doesn't happen because people could find info easier.

one thing I do like about the general forums is that, since there are only the main three, questions get viewed more often. Though subforums would definitely make more sense, I just like that since we have a few it's more likely someone is gonna see your question to answer it

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Haha, apparently it's Chevy enough for you to list it as such in your signature. And no offense, but I tend to take a little less technical advice from someone who, signature wise, decides that the most important thing to tell us about their truck is the amount of lift down to the 1/2". Sorry, just don't feel the need to measure. But whatever works for you man; to each his own.


Here we go. :rolleyes: People have to stray away from the topic at hand and make attacks just to seem cool. But if you would like the break down. 4" leafs, 3.5 hangers, and 3" body. Now if my calculator serves me correctly that is a total of 10.5. Am I wrong?

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Another observation....you don't exactly seem like the "complimentary" type, but I don't know you, so I could be wrong. Just basing my opinion on what I've seen, just like everyone else....

Soapbox is open...next.

The reason i don't give more is because THEIR IS NO BUILD THREAD!!!!!! I don't feel like going 5 pages deep just to find 3 build threads that were updated that day and have fallen back that far already.

[BlackrockMotorSports]

If you so badly want a build forum then please put together a detailed proposal of said forum, rules and administration, the qualifying parameters and submit it to me. I will take it to the mods and admin and if it seems feasible we will make you the moderator of said forum and you can make it happen. Of course, we will expect you to moderate it daily and clean it up and merge and delete posts as necessary. Sounds good to me! When can I expect your proposed outline?

Oh, yes... and I expect you to provide a detailed reference to your FSJ experience from 1962 to 1991, including the engines, body types, special editions, common AMC quirks and common mods to verify your expertise in moderating said forum. Easy stuff man. Just PM me your proposal. I'm glad you are so enthusiastic in taking on this project!

And, sweetie, poll doesn't have an "e" in it.

I apologize i missed that Hun, thanks for the spell check :thumbsup: .

Onto topic. I would love the opportunity to become a mod of the Said "build thread page". But I don't have the time to write up this so called proposal and the time to check it every day. IM not going to list the things IM involved in that full up my daily schedule because IM sure that will just open up for more people to trash talk.

If the reason you can't make the new section is due to the lack their of moderators, then why not put a post up asking for one to cover the new "build thread page"? Instead of letting it die?????? Im sure someone that has the time would be willing????

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Start your own build thread in the proper forum and put a link to it in your sig. Simple & Effective. What is so hard to understand about that?

Because what if I seen your build page one time 3 weeks ago and I would like to see it again but, I don't remember your name and maybe you changed your avatar along with your sig. This makes it much harder for me to recognize it from the first time. How am I going to find it? Now if we had a build section I could go there and find it much quicker. Kyle

[Lindel]

Wait don't you have a th400 in your jeep? Look on your tranny pan tell me what it says . . . . ."GM PRODUCT" :thumbsup:

The only thing "Chevy" on my truck is the cab, motor and tranny.


Hmmm, just looked at my wife's and it's tranny says Chrysler...

Now, as far as a build forum goes, those questions were answered in the other thread. However, present your credentials to Jeepstress as she asked and we'll go from there.

Or, you could start your own FSJ board and go from there, your pick.

[Casey]

Or, you could start your own FSJ board and go from there...

Good luck with that. :rolleyes:


BlackrockMotorSports a company name?

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Hmmm, just looked at my wife's and it's tranny says Chrysler...

Now, as far as a build forum goes, those questions were answered in the other thread. However, present your credentials to Jeepstress as she asked and we'll go from there.

Or, you could start your own FSJ board and go from there, your pick.


According to your sig that would make sense, since you have a 727 in your jeep . . . . i said th400 :confused: . which is what the gentleman had in his. . . which is made by GM.

thanks for your advise. Kyle

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Good luck with that. :rolleyes:


BlackrockMotorSports a company name?

Im not trying to make my own site when we have a perfectly good one here. Just making recommendations to improve.

No sorry, just a name

Thanks Kyle

[jeepjseries]

Well I have a borg warner 3 speed. I am staying out of this one guys.

[RTFM]

In before the lock.
Good going Francis er Kyle.

[Lindel]

According to your sig that would make sense, since you have a 727 in your jeep . . . . i said th400 :confused: . which is what the gentleman had in his. . . which is made by GM.

thanks for your advise. Kyle

And just so you know, Flint also has a TF727 in his Jeep. Krista happens to have some TH400's, and standard trannies as well.

[YellowJeep]

This forum is a good place, and has some great people, but....

It *is* sorely lacking compared to other automotive forums.

Most have many many different forums for each topic, sadly only a few here.

Your tone won't get anything accomplished here other than a timeout, or a flat out ban.

I suggested a simple addition for a vehicles only forum in the classifieds.
Never went anywhere:confused:


Many people have made good suggestions, most just wither away and die.
EDIT:
This is a primary reason that the same questions get asked over and over and over and over and over again.
Because everything is lumped into a "general" forum that can include just about anything.

Divide it up, into use-able specific subforums and this doesn't happen because people could find info easier.
Agreed on all points. Also the same reason I usually answer the same "how do I put a 5.3 in my FSJ" or "how do I fix my TBI" questions at least once a week.

I'm not hammering the admins here. I'm an admin on two other forums and have created/maintained a large mailing group before forums were around. I know it's a thankless job. However, there is always room for improvement on all forums including this one. You won't see any additional comments from me on this.

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Agreed on all points. Also the same reason I usually answer the same "how do I put a 5.3 in my FSJ" or "how do I fix my TBI" questions at least once a week.

I'm not hammering the admins here. I'm an admin on two other forums and have created/maintained a large mailing group before forums were around. I know it's a thankless job. However, there is always room for improvement on all forums including this one. You won't see any additional comments from me on this.

Thank you for the input. IM not trying to cause any problems or to start fights. I just didn't like how the last thread was handled. "We don't need it" "Closed"

Kyle

[BlackrockMotorSports]

And just so you know, Flint also has a TF727 in his Jeep. Krista happens to have some TH400's, and standard trannies as well.


im sorry i seen Flint put up a tech on "QuadraTrac Chain Replacement Directions? (http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=113050) " so i assumed that he had a th400 in his jeep.

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=113050 (http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=113050)



The point i was trying to get across was don't make fun of something you may have under the hood. Kyle

[mike12]

and call us in the morning :confused: it a jeep THING.

[Gambler68]

There's a builds forum on Pirate iirc..;)

Hey the board here is what it is, and that's how it is. Sure it'd be AWESOME to have updated board software, a sub forum for every interest, no political section, and all the bells and whistles of software programmed in this particualar decade, but hey, they stopped making FSJs in 1991 (or 02) so it's almost fitting. ;)

IMO, instead of making another sub forum, we should ACTIVELY work on saving tech articles. I had a sticky going for a while that people stopped using sadly, and it vanished during a sticky purge a few months ago. Bah. but whatever.

BRMS: Thank you for helping a member with his build. I agree it's frustrating trying to find a thread that gets buried quick, but that's just how it works here.

[CJ5]

I didn't reply in the other thread but there is a point to be made by having a build thread. It would make it easier to see ideas and it would help those who search to redefine the search terms. Yes, theads would dry up and fall away but doesn't that happen in the other forums?

Case in point, I am about to start a resto project. It would be much easier for me and more helpful for others if there was a specific place I could keep the resto thread. The idea of starting a thread in the other two possible places and then linking to it from my signature doesn't seem to be the best option. One would have to see one of my posts to have any clue that there may be a helpful full resto thread. Take the guy the built the Yellow SJ. He has a great write-up and build thread, but if you didn't know who he was or you just arrived on scene how easy is it to find his thread? If it was posted in a build thread more than likely it would stay close to the top.

Anyway, that is my 2c. I am not a mod or the owner of the site so take it for what it is worth. I do think it is a good idea and the postives out weight the negatives.

[BlackrockMotorSports]

and call us in the morning :confused: it a jeep THING.

did you notice in my sig, it says full tube frame body unknown? Im trying to find a clean Cherokee body. But until then no i do not own a jeep.

I didn't reply in the other thread but there is a point to be made by having a build thread. It would make it easier to see ideas and it would help those who search to redefine the search terms. Yes, theads would dry up and fall away but doesn't that happen in the other forums?

Case in point, I am about to start a resto project. It would be much easier for me and more helpful for others if there was a specific place I could keep the resto thread. The idea of starting a thread in the other two possible places and then linking to it from my signature doesn't seem to be the best option. One would have to see one of my posts to have any clue that there may be a helpful full resto thread. Take the guy the built the Yellow SJ. He has a great write-up and build thread, but if you didn't know who he was or you just arrived on scene how easy is it to find his thread? If it was posted in a build thread more than likely it would stay close to the top.

Anyway, that is my 2c. I am not a mod or the owner of the site so take it for what it is worth. I do think it is a good idea and the postives out weight the negatives.

Thank you!!! :dancingbanana: 100% how i feel. Kyle


Gambler68, thanks for your input and i understand what you are saying.

[jaber]

Because what if I seen your build page one time 3 weeks ago and I would like to see it again but, I don't remember your name and maybe you changed your avatar along with your sig. This makes it much harder for me to recognize it from the first time. How am I going to find it? Now if we had a build section I could go there and find it much quicker. Kyle

If its a build thread that you liked, you should make a POST to said thread complimenting said builder. Then, when you want to see it again, go to your user profile, click "view all subscribed threads", and finding said thread is a breeze. It has been working for me for OVER 6 years.
If your schedule is so tight, what makes you think everyone else has so much free time?

Just my .02.....:thumbsup:

[fulsizjeep]

My Jeep is a Jeep. All of the Jeeps here are Jeeps.
Jeep always sourced out parts to different makers.
None of them were ever shaped like that thing in your avatar though.

[BlackrockMotorSports]

If its a build thread that you liked, you should make a POST to said thread complimenting said builder. Then, when you want to see it again, go to your user profile, click "view all subscribed threads", and finding said thread is a breeze. It has been working for me for OVER 6 years.
If your schedule is so tight, what makes you think everyone else has so much free time?

Just my .02.....:thumbsup:

but what if i miss a new one cause its back so far in the thread? Cause i don't check everyday. if we had a section ment for that it would take longer for it to be pressed back.

I never said everyone else had tons of time i said put a post up asking if a member that could spare the time would take on the task.

I Like how people construe words

My Jeep is a Jeep. All of the Jeeps here are Jeeps.
Jeep always sourced out parts to different makers.
None of them were ever shaped like that thing in your avatar though.

but i bet that tranny pan is shaped just like mine lol.

[fulsizjeep]

yeah but... these all bleed the same red from the trannys -and- are shaped like Jeeps :cool:
http://jubileejeeps.org/jubilee_spring08.jpg

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Yep. Nice collection you have. Kyle

[will e]

Wow, all of this time I thought GM's had a Jeep tranny... You learn something every day! ;)

The argument for new threads go both ways. You can get to the point where there are too many areas and it gets just as confusing on where to post. One member mentioned 'resto' thread in the build section. I wouldn't have thought to put it there. I think of build threads as modifcation of the jeeps. Lots of those in the off-road FSJ section.

I just did a build of my Jeep. SOA/SF, swapped engine (AMC), transmission (TF727) and TC (NP208). Tossed in some lockers, new seats, etc. Also got it painted.

I split it up a little. I did the paint in the General Section because lots of folks like to see new paint jobs.

I put some of the build in the Ouray section because the good folks were encouraging me to get the build done before Ouray 2009.

I did some SOA in the off-road section.

So... as an examlpe of the delima. If we had a build section should I have put all of this in one thread there? What consitutes a 'build'? If someone is looking for SOA info would they miss out because I didn't do a specific thread for that and it was buried in my build thread? I still need to put in the painless dual battery system, would I append to my build thread? I understand your thought is a build thread would make it easier, I don't completly agree with that. There is no perfect solution, only trade offs.

If you are looking for build ideas, I suggest the FSJ Off-Road section (if you are building a trail or off road rig). You will find almost everything covered there for modifying a Jeep. If you can't find something then ask and someone will pitch in. We almost never get a 'use the search button' response from our awesome members.

[Green Giant]

Okay....................my tranny says GM, but my carb and ignition say Motorcraft, what do I have a Chebby or a Furd?:confused:

Wait a minute,.........my 69 has a Buick motor:eek:

And my 66 has a Rambler motor.;)

Man this is great, I can join a bunch of other forums now.:thumbsup:

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Okay....................my tranny says GM, but my carb and ignition say Motorcraft, what do I have a Chebby or a Furd?:confused:

Wait a minute,.........my 69 has a Buick motor:eek:

And my 66 has a Rambler motor.;)

Man this is great, I can join a bunch of other forums now.:thumbsup:

lol all i can say lol

WILL E i understand what you are saying but in my eyes all you listed should be in a build page. cause that is what you are doing. Everyting thing that is done to that vehicle is in one thread not spread out all over the place. Everyone see's things different. Kyle

[leostevo]

This is getting rediculous. I feel like I am watching a child ask to go spend the night at Johnnies house and continually arguing with his parents when the deny it. Do you think that youngin is going to convince his parents?

I initially liked the idea but see the issues involved. I haven't been here for years; but, I have realized that those who make builds worth watching post almost daily. Use thier sig links and get over it.

I feel like it should also be noted that you can't spit in somone's face and then pat them on the back saying "sorry" in the same day. Also, the fact that some vehicles share parts doesn't mean they are the same. It's great that everyone wants to be part of the Jeep club but don't try to be a Jeeper by slapping Jeep parts on your custom truck. If it is doesn't have a VIN from Jeep then it's not a Jeep, thanks for playing.

Now let this thread DIE.

[jMedia]

Yea i voiced irrelevant and pointless opinion earlier (lets just say I wasn't not a little drunk:D ) but I don't think this is gonna go anywhere. A build forum WOULD be nice but I just don't think its in the cards, mods and admins don't have the time. And finding someone else to do it would take time as well. So it seems like we are just:banghead:

[will e]

WILL E i understand what you are saying but in my eyes all you listed should be in a build page. cause that is what you are doing. Everyting thing that is done to that vehicle is in one thread not spread out all over the place. Everyone see's things different. Kyle

Yep, and I would say each would be easier to find in their own threads.


Looks like, for now, that is the way it is going to stay.

[Metal Twister]

Or... We could put um here..http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=110218. ;):cool:

Just twisting your tail Tad.

Its all good, there's a time and place for everything. Its just not for now and here. I have a couple of forums myself and I can truly see both sides here. Its a big job monitoring a forum and keeping it cleaned up. Finding Mods that have the same vision as what yours is sometimes difficult as well. I would like a build thread here for all the reasons already mentioned... But the reality is I don't see the "whole picture"... I just want to play. ;) When its all said and done Tad gets to do the work, maybe we should revisit this another day? For the record I think this is a great resource for the FSJ community and appreciate what is involved in getting the forum to this point. On a scale of one to 10 I give you guys a 9+ Thanks for the forum. Over and out for me on this topic.

[shiner2001]

Here we go. :rolleyes: People have to stray away from the topic at hand and make attacks just to seem cool. But if you would like the break down. 4" leafs, 3.5 hangers, and 3" body. Now if my calculator serves me correctly that is a total of 10.5. Am I wrong?

Oh chill out. It's not a build thread so I can say what I want, especially if I use some cool smilies too so as not to offend everyone's delicate sensibilities. Bottom line is you posted a Lt. Dan idea (it's got no legs) and it got shot down. Deal with it and move on to your next rant and let everyone else get back to being shiny happy FSJ people. Better yet, take your tape measure and go to Pirate.

Oh yeah, as far as the "topic at hand," when you come off like a jerk, it kind of overshadows your message and BECOMES the topic at hand. I've got a lift kit on my people skills, trust me.

[will e]

Oh chill out. It's not a build thread so I can say what I want, especially if I use some cool smilies too so as not to offend everyone's delicate sensibilities. Bottom line is you posted a Lt. Dan idea (it's got no legs) and it got shot down. Deal with it and move on to your next rant and let everyone else get back to being shiny happy FSJ people. Better yet, take your tape measure and go to Pirate.

Oh yeah, as far as the "topic at hand," when you come off like a jerk, it kind of overshadows your message and BECOMES the topic at hand. I've got a lift kit on my people skills, trust me.

Shiner, have some compassion, he's a Chevy guy. Plus he used the time honored 'I bet you will close this thread too'.

[shiner2001]

Shiner, have some compassion, he's a Chevy guy. Plus he used the time honored 'I bet you will close this thread too'.

Haha, fair enough. (And is that a shot at me too? You DO remember what was under the hood of the YJ, right? :eek: ) See you in July, don't forget your towstraps!

[jeepskater433]

Alright I know Im thorwing my 2 cents in here again, but hear me out, When somebody complained that we didnt have a seperate section for "Trade Only" not even a day went by that that section was created, now how hard would it have been for people to post in the old "For Sale and Trade" section as "Trade Only" on their post, so how hard would it be to put a "Build Thread" section. If it were up to me I think we should put a poll out and see what happens, if the members of the forum decide that we should have one then why not, its not that difficult, its not hurting anyone, on the contrary it can help people out.

And it doesnt matter how long people have been part of the forum, or how much they post, Ive seen members that have been here a lot longer than I have and only have a fraction of the posts I have, Im not saying this is a game or anything, Im just saying dont judge members by how long they have been here or how much they post, yes I havent been on this forum for a year yet, but I have owned and learned more about fsjs in the past 3 years then some have in the past 10 years, Just because I didnt join the forum right when I bought my first fsj doesnt mean I dont know anything about them, and doesnt mean I wont be here for years to come

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Alright I know Im thorwing my 2 cents in here again, but hear me out, When somebody complained that we didnt have a seperate section for "Trade Only" not even a day went by that that section was created, now how hard would it have been for people to post in the old "For Sale and Trade" section as "Trade Only" on their post, so how hard would it be to put a "Build Thread" section. If it were up to me I think we should put a poll out and see what happens, if the members of the forum decide that we should have one then why not, its not that difficult, its not hurting anyone, on the contrary it can help people out.

And it doesnt matter how long people have been part of the forum, or how much they post, Ive seen members that have been here a lot longer than I have and only have a fraction of the posts I have, Im not saying this is a game or anything, Im just saying dont judge members by how long they have been here or how much they post, yes I havent been on this forum for a year yet, but I have owned and learned more about fsjs in the past 3 years then some have in the past 10 years, Just because I didnt join the forum right when I bought my first fsj doesnt mean I dont know anything about them, and doesnt mean I wont be here for years to come

THANK YOU!!!!! But the mods don't care. They will close this thread im sure . . .

[Toyotech]

Okay....................my tranny says GM, but my carb and ignition say Motorcraft, what do I have a Chebby or a Furd?:confused:

Wait a minute,.........my 69 has a Buick motor:eek:

And my 66 has a Rambler motor.;)

Man this is great, I can join a bunch of other forums now.:thumbsup:

Ameriforchrysroleepick :huh:?


.

[jeepskater433]

THANK YOU!!!!! But the mods don't care. They will close this thread im sure . . .

Your welcome, and Im sure they care, thats why theyre the Mods, they have to care about what goes on the forum, In a way I understand where they are coming from, they dont want some "newb" coming in and changing things around only to sell their fsj and not return to the forum, but at the same its not that big of a deal because this can benefit anybody whether they are new or seniors to the forum. The "Build Thread" section will probably not happen, they have already made up their mind which was posted in the last thread about this and then closed which is what will happen to this thread. All you have to do is search through the sections for builds or wait until somebody updates theres to read about them, either that or go to pirate4x4 and look up the few that are there, or cardomain, or any local offroad enthusiast forum.

[will e]

But the mods don't care. They will close this thread im sure . . .

for petes sake. Do you need a hankey or something? Just because we don't jump in and do what you suggested doesn't mean we don't care. That is an unfair statement.

And really, the whole 'sniff sniff' they will close my thread gets really tiresome.

[Tad]

...And really, the whole 'sniff sniff' they will close my thread gets really tiresome. Yea, but it's going to make someone a really good sig line.

Kyle,
You really didn't pay attention to that post did you?
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showpost.php?p=1022151&postcount=39
The part:
The answer is no, there will be no build section at this point in time That does not mean ever, or never, it means just how it reads.

I think the reality is that your a bit frustrated that your buddy Matt got his post closed, it's not deleted, it's not invalid, it's just closed and it's got nothing to do with you or Matt.
If that's the case you'll need to move past that pretty quick. I have a really low tolerance level for this type of behavior.

[shiner2001]

for petes sake. Do you need a hankey or something? Just because we don't jump in and do what you suggested doesn't mean we don't care. That is an unfair statement.

And really, the whole 'sniff sniff' they will close my thread gets really tiresome.

Buuuttttt moooommmmmmmm...... :lol:

[Toyotech]

[quote=Tad]Yea, but it's going to make someone a really good sig line.


Yes it will!
:thumbsdown:

[Casey]

Has the cheese been served yet?

:hide:

[Ristow]

Has the cheese been served yet?

:hide:


how'd i get drug into this???

[fireman91186]

Are we back to kindergarten again?

[Ristow]

are you gonna turn down cookies and nap time?

[shiner2001]

Dear Santa,

For Christmas this year I want this thread to suffer the fate of a lame horse.

[addicted]

are you gonna turn down cookies and nap time?

Mike, can I have chocolate milk today?

[Ristow]

yes you may. now go pick out your nap spot.

[addicted]

I get the blue mat!

[Casey]

I get the blue mat!
You'll get nothing and like it, Spaulding! :p

[shiner2001]

You'll get nothing and like it, Spaulding! :p


I want a hamburger, no a cheeseburger. I want a french fries, I want a hot dog...

[fireman91186]

I miss the days when there was cookies and nap time.


Oh so peaceful:zzz::zzz:

[baybilly]

Casey stole my cookies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm telling Mike on you. :rolleyes:

this was 10 mins i cant get back reading this one.

[YellowJeep]

SO, we won't be closing this thread just so people can make fun of the guy who suggested the idea? Very nice. I'm sure that makes a good impression for any new people. :rolleyes: An no, I'm not defending his attitude but really guys.

[Casey]

SO, we won't be closing this thread just so people can make fun of the guy who suggested the idea? Very nice. I'm sure that makes a good impression for any new people. :rolleyes: An no, I'm not defending his attitude but really guys.
Don't go to a Redsox game wearing a Yankees jersey...

just sayin. :rolleyes:

He called out the admin in his first, what...14 posts!! Really? There's an impression to leave...

The first clue to him should have been the original post had been answered and closed, period. Anything after that is just fodder for the cannons of smite.

[YellowJeep]

Don't go to a Redsox game wearing a Yankees jersey...

just sayin. :rolleyes:

He called out the admin in his first, what...14 posts!! Really? There's an impression to leave...

The first clue to him should have been the original post had been answered and closed, period. Anything after that is just fodder for the cannons of smite.

Let me translate that for you: "He started it!" So, this really is kindergarden. Thanks for clarifying.

[will e]

SO, we won't be closing this thread just so people can make fun of the guy who suggested the idea? Very nice. I'm sure that makes a good impression for any new people. :rolleyes: An no, I'm not defending his attitude but really guys.


After two 'I bet you delete this'? He hasn't been here long enough to say who and who doesn't care about the board. He hasn't been here long enough to know that very very few posts get deleted and very few are closed. Best I can guess is he just has a lot of experience at getting his threads deleted and is kinda used to it.

[ARouser]

to the OP:

Your point, which was so eloquently communicated, has been made. (With the help of several others)

In case you haven't noticed (which I am sure you have) this conversation has headed south and its probably best that you just let this thread go.

The mods are aware of your concern for the lack of MANY useful subforums. They have been for quite some time.

When the time is right, and the moon hangs just right, they may get around to setting all of them up and mapping them out. Until then you'll have to make like the rest of us who are patiently waiting and gtfo it :thumbsup:

Thanks for the good read.

Goodnight Kyle, and goodbye.

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Well, I hope everyone enjoyed the thread and hope the mods got the idea that maybe in the future it would be nice to see a buildup page. But that's up to them and I leave it at that. :fsj:

Thanks guys. Kyle


P. S think IM the most well know lowest poster of the forum? lol

[shiner2001]

Sexist comment in 3, 2, 1....

Ah c'mon, anyone who can't take some good natured ribbing belongs in the kitchen, not the garage. :eek:

Just kidding, I just couldn't think of anything as funny as kitchen. To me anyway.

Also I found it humorous how nicely put the original post was in the first thread about this subject. "Well, that didn't work, let's try it like this!!"

[Casey]

Let me translate that for you: "He started it!" So, this really is kindergarden. Thanks for clarifying.
More like 'careful what you wish for'.

He also needs to have his avatar removed for a violation of the rules. The impression he made with me is he doesn't give a flip about the rules here.

[mike ristow]

P. S think IM the most well know lowest poster of the forum? lol



eh....probably not.

[fulsizjeep]

He also needs to have his avatar removed for a violation of the rules.I been waiting patiently for this action to take place. ;)

[BlackrockMotorSports]

Would it matter if I had a jeep part on my chevy? I run the np200 tacse which comes from the m715 and m37 jeeps!!!!!!! Am i accepted???? lol

[addicted]

I been waiting patiently for this action to take place. ;)

I hadn't noticed! :p

[addicted]

Would it matter if I had a jeep part on my chevy? I run the np200 tacse which comes from the m715 and m37 jeeps!!!!!!! Am i accepted???? lol

You really don't seem to care about the forum rules do you? Your avatar, by the forum rules, is supposed to be Jeep related not Chevy related.

[TPICherokee]

This is from the avatar upload page:

NOTE: All custom avatars must be "Jeep" related (images of your vehicle or Jeep\4wd related logos). Use of non-"Jeep" related avatars may lead to loss of avatar privilages.

[Jeepstress]

Oh dear. Looks like I might need to wake up the Amazon Bikini Zombies sooner than I had expected. :rolleyes:

[Toyotech]

Oh dear. Looks like I might need to wake up the Amazon Bikini Zombies sooner than I had expected. :rolleyes:

I like the sound of that!!!!:alc: :alc: :alc:

[will e]

We are not going to tolerate name calling.

[tgreening]

While I agree that the OP got a little carried away and juust a bit confrontational, I'd also say his idea has some merit.

Ok, so the mods shot it down. But at least WHY it was shot down shouldn't require too much effort on admins' part and would probably go a long way to shushing the natives.

Beyond that 401 put forth the idea that it was doable if the OP was willing to run the gauntlet through a laundry list of requirements, some reasonable some...maybe less so.

I think the build forum is a good idea. I frequent another forum that has just such a thing and I can say it is beyond useful and convenient.

You need a moderator with time on his hands? I'll do it. I can keep things on topic (within reason) and put a stop to any nonsense that crops up (without a doubt).

Am I a bottomless pit of knowledge all things FSJ related since their inception till their demise? Absolutely not, but since a fair number of people in here have everything in their FSJ from cummins diesels to axles out of 60's era german military trucks I don't see that as much of an issue anyway. Especially since I never knew it to be a Moderators job to fact check peoples posts anyway. His right maybe, but not his job. There's no way to be an expert on everything people are likely to do with their ride. If we were starting a "Absolutely bone stock factory parts only restoration" forum it would be a different story.

I can say that as of this moment I have 3 CJs (2 mostly done), 3 FSJ trucks (1 fairly done), 1 Wagoneer (never done. <grin>), and 1 Unimog under the knife. I'm not a stranger to builds.

Anyway I'm willing, I've got the time and at least a smidgin of knowledge and common sense.

What say you?

[Dumpy]

Can this thread be killed. It's kinda annoying

[Jeepstress]

Please guys. No name calling.

The mods discussed this when it was first mentioned. We determined that it wasn't feasible at this time. That doesn't mean it won't happen at some point in the future.

Most of us are agreed that we really want to stay away from a forum that has a zillion subforums - like pirate and the eaglenest.

More forums is not always better. I hate looking for anything when there are a dozen subforums with another dozen tertiary forums.

At any rate..... I think this has been hashed over enough for now.

[Dumpy]

So.......How about them Bears? I heard Mike Ditka beat the Browns all by himself!

[jMedia]

So.......How about them Bears? I heard Mike Ditka beat the Browns all by himself!

QUESTION: Coach Ditka versus a hurricane, who wins?

Hold on, hold on.

The name of the hurricane is hurrican Ditka.

[fireman91186]

QUESTION: Coach Ditka versus a hurricane, who wins?

Hold on, hold on.

The name of the hurricane is hurrican Ditka.

Ditka versus Chuck Norris who wins?

[jMedia]

Ditka.



..polish sausage...

[TPICherokee]

Ditka versus Chuck Norris who wins?

The senseless waste of pitting these two mighty forces of nature against each other, like matter vs. anti-matter, will be a tragedy, not only for the people involved but for our planet. All nations must band together, to ensure that such a conflageration never takes place

[fulsizjeep]

Todd - I am sorry to have started it, so I apologize to you, the mods and admins and even the guy who can not seem to figure out this site is focused on FSJs.

[Gambler68]

rabble rouser! ;)

[fulsizjeep]

excuse me sir, but THAT title is taken ;)

[Green Giant]

Todd - I am sorry to have started it, so I apologize to you, the mods and admins and even the guy who can not seem to figure out this site is focused on FSJs.

I have a very thick skin. I took what you said in jest, and I was joshing back at you, hence the smiley.
But I guess that some have a lower tolerance for irony/humor than I do and I got called on the porch for it, so I apologize to all also.

[Metal Twister]

Well I said I was done with this thread.... But just one more comment :eek:.

Lets try this for awhile... http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=113144

[fulsizjeep]

LOL, I got it Todd but forgot some smileys to show my good humor.
;) :D ;) :D ;) :D ;) :D ;) :D ;) :D ;) :D ;) :D ;) :D

[Lindel]

Does this make you the Good Humor Man, Flint? ;)

[fulsizjeep]

only for Krista :eek:

[Casey]

I have a very thick skin. I took what you said in jest, and I was joshing back at you, hence the smiley.
But I guess that some have a lower tolerance for irony/humor than I do and I got called on the porch for it, so I apologize to all also.
I'm just sad I didn't get to ban you for it!!!

:p :D

[380tom]

This forum is a good place, and has some great people, but....

It *is* sorely lacking compared to other automotive forums.

Most have many many different forums for each topic, sadly only a few here.

Your tone won't get anything accomplished here other than a timeout, or a flat out ban.

I suggested a simple addition for a vehicles only forum in the classifieds.
Never went anywhere:confused:


Many people have made good suggestions, most just wither away and die.
EDIT:
This is a primary reason that the same questions get asked over and over and over and over and over again.
Because everything is lumped into a "general" forum that can include just about anything.

Divide it up, into use-able specific subforums and this doesn't happen because people could find info easier.

Yeah!
What HE said! :thumbsup:

[JeepNOFEAR]

Build thread sounds liks a really good idea.