Shackle angle

[Hybrid-Jeepster]

This is an 84 GW frame and these springs came from another Waggy but measure out to the correct specs for a GW but this shackle angle is a bit much. What is the deal here? Thanks in advance.

These pics are the best I have at work.

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[jeeping1974]

There is no weight to compress the springs some so the springs are pushing up on the chassis?

You need to get a motor/tranny/t-case in there on a set of wheels and then see where it is at.

Also. it looks like the springs are in backwards, unless you want the axle pushed back more, or maybe its just the picture and my eyes.

[Hybrid-Jeepster]

There is no weight to compress the springs some so the springs are pushing up on the chassis?

I figured that would help but I did know it would make that much difference. Since I am putting a Jeepster body on this frame do you think I need to take out some of the short leafs(leaves)? It will have everything from a GW except the body which is a few lbs. heavier than a Jeepster body.

Also. it looks like the springs are in backwards, unless you want the axle pushed back more, or maybe its just the picture and my eyes.
I figured out they were backwards when I could get the trac bar to line up and the bumpstops did not line up.

[jeeping1974]

I would take out the shortest flex, but I think that you are going to need to do something about the shackles regardless. The front part of the frame looks to be "higher" than the frame that is at the back of the wheel well. I don't think that the FJS frames are anywhere close to that amount of height gain. That could be your biggest problem there.You may need to build down your hangers some and use a longer shackle.

[Hybrid-Jeepster]

I don't think that the FJS frames are anywhere close to that amount of height gain.

I see what you are saying about the difference in height but it is a stock Wagoneer frame. What exactly are you saying? Sorry its early and the gears in my head are struggling to start.

Edit: I got home last night and was going to go ahead and turn those springs around and they are not in backwards. THe small bushing is in the front and the big one is in the rear. But I thought that the spring were supposed to be the small size on both ends?

Wagoneers

"1962-73 Wagoneers use 22 x 22 x 2 1/2 inch front springs with 9/16 ID bushings on both ends, and 26 x26 x 2 1/2 inch rear springs with 7/8 ID bushings on the post and 9/16 ID bushings on the shackle.

1974-75 Wagoneers use 22 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 2 1/2 inch front springs with 9/16 ID bushings on both ends (the same as 1976 up), but 26 x 26 x 2 1/2 inch springs on the rear (the same as 1962-73). The kicker on the rear springs is that they have a 1 inch post mount instead of a 7/8 inch like the 62-73's - same spring - different bushing. The shackle bushing is the same 9/16 inch ID.

1976 and up Wagoneers use the 22 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 2 1/2 inch front spring with 9/16 inch bushings on both ends, and a 26 x 31 x 2 1/2 inch rear springs with 9/16 inch ID bushings on both ends. "


It seems that I am not supposed to get this the done. If its not one thing its another.

[HellCreek]

Hi,

That last quote is from our post and is the sizes of the Wagoneer O.E.M. springs. Jeep made some of them with the larger eye on the anchor end and some of them with the larger eye on the shackle end.:huh: We make all of our Jeep springs with the larger eye on the anchor end for standardization purposes, but, since the bolts sizes are the same, you can easily reverse them, if you wish, for custom applications like yours.

-Tom

[Hybrid-Jeepster]

HellCreek,
So I can reverse these springs and it will not hurt anything having the small end as the anchor and the big as the shackle end? Because as said earlier nothing is lining up with the axle now.

It just hit me that you work for HellCreek Susp. Could you tell me the eye to eye mesurement of the stock 84 waggy/grand waggy front leaf spring?

Thanks for your time and help.

Chris

[HellCreek]

Hi, Chris,

Yes, you can reverse the front spring with no ill consequences. It will simply move your axle forward about 2 inches. Both the anchor and shackle bolts are 9/16", so they will fit either bushing.

The eye-to-eye measurement of a stock Waggy front spring is 47" for all years from 1974 through 1991.

-Tom