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jtr
11-12-2009, 06:46 PM
4 used 12 bolts off ebay, came with hardware and o-rings.

Cut out the centers w/ torch

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build030.jpg

1/2 rock rings from Mac

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build004.jpg

Pressed Centers

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build002.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build001.jpg

jig for measuring

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build008.jpg

16" pvc cut to 6.75" with skill saw.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build003.jpg

Welded one in @ 3.2 backspacing.....most I could get!

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build009.jpg
jtr
11-12-2009, 06:52 PM
Close up weld

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build021.jpg

added some primer

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build023.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build024.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build025.jpg

More paint

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build026.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build027.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build034.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build035.jpg
jtr
11-12-2009, 07:02 PM
Welded up original rectangular hole and re-drilled for normal/common valve stem.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build031.jpg

Took a router to the inside edge so the insert will seat, if you don't the halves will never bolt together and seal.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build012.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build014.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build015.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build022.jpg

Just for fun..

33s
38 TSL
42 Pitbull Rocker

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build017.jpg

33s on new wheels

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build020.jpg

Got some new tires 39.5 x 16.5 x 16.5 Pittbull Rockers

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build038.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build041.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build043.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build039.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/H1build040.jpg
cmelo
11-12-2009, 07:53 PM
Very nice combo, I've got some H1s that are waiting for me to get some DRW axle to bolt under mine. If I buy new i'm buying rockers as well. They get awesome reviews and I've seen them perform in person and they're an awesome tire.
FSJ Guy
11-12-2009, 08:15 PM
That's a NICE welding job there!
jtr
11-12-2009, 08:33 PM
If you attempt this project get your wheels sandblasted. Paint used by the military is tough to remove and smells terrible, it's worth the $15 per wheel to have them blasted.
jeepjerry
11-12-2009, 08:37 PM
Wow!!!....thats sweet work!!....:thumbsup:
cmelo
11-12-2009, 08:47 PM
I notice you have a plate on the front of your truck. Are you going to drive it on the street? I'm curious to see how well it rolls on the self welded centers. Your welds look great so if it works for you maybe when I get a bit more confident I might rethink going DRW and just recenter my H1s.
NVJEEPER
11-12-2009, 09:03 PM
:thumbsup: WOW!!!:thumbsup: NICE welding...an tire's!
Casey
11-13-2009, 05:47 AM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
orangecherokee
11-13-2009, 06:30 AM
good post. i love the way those rockers are looking :cool:
Tad
11-13-2009, 07:04 AM
Very nice indeed!
jtr
11-13-2009, 07:13 AM
I notice you have a plate on the front of your truck. Are you going to drive it on the street? I'm curious to see how well it rolls on the self welded centers. Your welds look great so if it works for you maybe when I get a bit more confident I might rethink going DRW and just recenter my H1s.


This truck is street driven and it rolls fine with the self welded centers. Just for the hell of it I measured the backspacing on my factory built 16x10 Steelies and they had a runout of .040" or worse. I got all of my centers < .020". Not worried about it. :D
JeepsAndGuns
11-13-2009, 07:40 AM
I have the exact same set of wheels and centers sitting in storage waiting for my build to get funded.
I have been wondering how I was gonna get the centers, well....centered! Seems like a pretty nifty idea, I will remember that.

Looks good!
toyjeep
11-13-2009, 08:33 AM
I did the same thing with 8 bolt wheels. IIRC you get 3.5" BS out of those. My home welded ones run true enough on the road as well. There is a nice lip in the wheel on 8-bolt to press it againt for trueness.

What exact router bit did you use on your PVC inners? I did something similar on one insert so far with a grinder.

What exact size pipe is it, i.e. 16" SDR 18....? The PVC I scrounged up seems to be a 1/16" too small to fit over the inner wheel on the 8-bolts. I have to persuade it on and off.
jtr
11-13-2009, 08:42 AM
I did the same thing with 8 bolt wheels. IIRC you get 3.5" BS out of those. My home welded ones run true enough on the road as well. There is a nice lip in the wheel on 8-bolt to press it againt for trueness.

What exact router bit did you use on your PVC inners? I did something similar on one insert so far with a grinder.

What exact size pipe is it, i.e. 16" SDR 18....? The PVC I scrounged up seems to be a 1/16" too small to fit over the inner wheel on the 8-bolts. I have to persuade it on and off.

Mine do not come off easliy either, it is such a tight fit that if you do not drill some holes in the PVC no air will get into the tire area.:eek:
PVC was 16" water main, I thought it was too small too but all the research I did said I had the right stuff.

The bit was a 1/2" round over like this.


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:msmqFO5kyf8WRM:http://www.woodcraft.com/AffiliateWiz/aw.aspx%3FB%3D603%26A%3D38%26Task%3DGet
jtr
11-13-2009, 08:46 AM
Another note. These things are heavy.

My Jeep weighed 4940 lbs with old tires and wheels.

Now it weighs 5300.

Additional 360 lbs or 90 lbs per corner.
billyrb
11-13-2009, 09:04 AM
very cool, and yep, they are SUPER heavy :)
toyjeep
11-13-2009, 10:47 AM
Mine do not come off easliy either, it is such a tight fit that if you do not drill some holes in the PVC no air will get into the tire area.:eek:
PVC was 16" water main, I thought it was too small too but all the research I did said I had the right stuff.

The bit was a 1/2" round over like this.


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:msmqFO5kyf8WRM:http://www.woodcraft.com/AffiliateWiz/aw.aspx%3FB%3D603%26A%3D38%26Task%3DGet


So you put a round corner on it instead of the magic 13 degrees, or whatever that number is. (can't remeber without looking it up)

Holding air well? Without my inserts I may have 1lb leak over 1 month.
jtr
11-13-2009, 10:52 AM
So you put a round corner on it instead of the magic 13 degrees, or whatever that number is. (can't remeber without looking it up)

Holding air well? Without my inserts I may have 1lb leak over 1 month.

Yeah it is round, no magic 13 degress. Holding air great, found the key is getting everything clean with soapy water. I cleaned all mating surfaces with sponge and soaked the o-rings in the same bucket with warm soapy water.
mrs
11-13-2009, 11:02 AM
Hey there are my sunglasses that I lost :D
jtr
11-13-2009, 11:43 AM
I knew they would show up;)
j20brett
11-13-2009, 12:21 PM
Man i love that stance! What is your roof height? This is the exact look im headed for. What springs in front? 4"?
jtr
11-14-2009, 09:52 AM
Springs are first gen Dodge Cummins rears under a waggy main leaf. I will measure roof height today. Standby...
jtr
11-14-2009, 02:51 PM
Man i love that stance! What is your roof height? This is the exact look im headed for. What springs in front? 4"?


80" roof height.
jtr
11-18-2009, 08:31 PM
couple more pics for people that are searching

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/fall09031.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/fall09034.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/justinroose/H1%20build/fall09032.jpg
mrs
11-18-2009, 09:30 PM
Nice jeep love those tires :thumbsup:
Slick Willie
11-24-2009, 01:50 PM
Nice write up, good job. :thumbsup:
toyjeep
11-24-2009, 06:46 PM
Just for reference. This past weekend I cut some PVC inserts the same 6.75" width for my 8-Bolt H1's with 42" Rockers and it seems to be about the perfect width.

Going to River Rock this coming weekend, I will try and get some more pics of how good the tires look. :cool:
401c.h.i.e.f.
11-24-2009, 07:23 PM
nice write up was going to do the same
Heimeken
11-25-2009, 09:57 AM
I am impressed! Great work.
jtr
11-25-2009, 04:30 PM
thanks everyone, I really enjoyed this project. It took a long time to figure out a way to measure the back spacing easily and quickly.

Hopefully that jig will help somebody out....I searched and searched and did not find what I was looking for.
Frankenstien
11-25-2009, 07:52 PM
I loved my Rockers and they are the meanest looking tire around. That truck looks great too. I am either going with Maddawgs or Rockers on my 715. There is a guy that sells Pitbulls over on Pirate cheap and the shipping is great too..
Frankenstien
11-25-2009, 07:54 PM
I love the convenient pile of rocks.