View Full Version : Best Tire for wheeling?
Johnbaum13
10-30-2009, 08:16 PM
I'm looking to get a new set of tires in a month or two, and was wondering what you guy considered the best all around tire for wheeling? On road manners are the least of my concerns, and I'm looking in the 35X14.5 range. I don't want to have to worry about getting stuck 'cause I bought the wrong tire. I can find plenty of other ways to get stuck all on my own!
ol HICKS
10-30-2009, 09:12 PM
tell us about your rig. Tires will help but not if you dont have power and a set of lockers.
El_Diablo
10-30-2009, 09:14 PM
it really depends on what type of "wheeling" you'll be doing
Murphy
10-30-2009, 09:16 PM
All around, IMO, TSL/SX (not good on the road) but there are a lot of good tires, and some may be better for more specific terrains. I'm curious to hear other opinions also. This thread will be interesting.
LTS06
10-31-2009, 05:37 AM
I vote for the Super Swamper Trxus MT.
I have wheeled them in sand, mud, heavy rock, and hill climbing (with all the afore mentioned terrains) with great success. and this was with my DD rig with full spool in the rear. I put 10,000+ miles on road and a couple hundred off road with them. Still had 80% +- tread. I sold the jeep which is why I can't comment on further mileage.
They are quiet on the street and I have run BFG MT's on road as well...I like the trxus better especially in the rain...I know they may not last quite as long but they handle as well or better. I have also wheeled with TSL's offroad. Maybe slightly better than the trxus in mud but with the not so good road manners it's no contest.
I was wheeling with someone with BFG MT's, another with TSL's, and yet another with boggers. I did everything they did and I had the smallest tires out of the group (33's). Upper 2, school bus (backwards), gaurdrail, helicopter pad (RIP Tellico).
I'd have them on my DD TJ now except I could not afford them when I needed tires (and they are fairly decently priced) nor for my J-10 (the 11R16's were to cheap to pass up).
5quarter
10-31-2009, 06:24 AM
11.00 16 michelin XZL's
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Murphy
10-31-2009, 10:32 AM
I vote for the Super Swamper Trxus MT. ...
I have heard they both perform similar on and off road, but the TSL doesn't drift sideways as much when locked and spinning. I don't know for sure if that's true.
JeepDude360
10-31-2009, 10:43 AM
Boggers if you ask me. Up here in the Mid West that is the all around best Off Road tire. Take a look at the Tuff Truck Challange, and other big events that cover most every type of wheeling most of the guys are running them or the new Mickey Thompson Claws. I wheel with a group of guys that are on them and they just walk through most obsticles. Granted they are locked front and rear. I will be going to them next.
Pitbull Rockers, they are very strong as we tend to have heavy rigs. I run a set of 39.5x16.5x16 on my j truck. Got to their website and read about them, also Pirate has many write ups never read anything bad about the tires. Good Luck
Geminiroq
10-31-2009, 11:04 AM
Wow...this is great info!! :thumbsup:
I hope I am not highjacking your thread....but what about a AT tire for a DD that see's a little offroad action.
What would be the best?
Thank you
JeepDude360
10-31-2009, 11:14 AM
BFG AT all day. I had to drive my daughters XJ all last winter in 2WD. The tires are pretty worn and I only had troubles when the body would sway. No front sway bar at that time. Also run them on my wifes WJ with AWD, and going to put them on my F350 tow rig. Love them, but sometimes a little pricey. Also looking into Treadwright Retreads. They have a pattere just like the BFG but much cheaper.:thumbsup:
http://www.treadwright.com/shopnow/product/tabid/61/productid/59/sename/265-75r16-warden-a-t-e/default.aspx
rocklaurence
10-31-2009, 04:55 PM
The no compromise tire is the Bogger. You just need to make sure you have the power (& gears) to turn them and dont use them up on the road.
Blake
10-31-2009, 05:46 PM
I've had GREAT luck with BFG A/T's. They are a great all around tire.
My J10 has IROK's on it. They are loud, out of balance, SUCK in the snow and have flat spots. They are really good on the trail though.
GI-John
10-31-2009, 06:02 PM
I vote for the Super Swamper Trxus MT.
I have wheeled them in sand, mud, heavy rock, and hill climbing (with all the afore mentioned terrains) with great success. and this was with my DD rig with full spool in the rear. I put 10,000+ miles on road and a couple hundred off road with them. Still had 80% +- tread. I sold the jeep which is why I can't comment on further mileage.
They are quiet on the street and I have run BFG MT's on road as well...I like the trxus better especially in the rain...I know they may not last quite as long but they handle as well or better. I have also wheeled with TSL's offroad. Maybe slightly better than the trxus in mud but with the not so good road manners it's no contest.
I was wheeling with someone with BFG MT's, another with TSL's, and yet another with boggers. I did everything they did and I had the smallest tires out of the group (33's). Upper 2, school bus (backwards), gaurdrail, helicopter pad (RIP Tellico).
I'd have them on my DD TJ now except I could not afford them when I needed tires (and they are fairly decently priced) nor for my J-10 (the 11R16's were to cheap to pass up).
They also happen to be great in snow. Sidewalls seem to be the weak point with these tires.
I was dead set on them until I saw the new Goodyear MTR's in action.I've wheeled with a bunch of guys from NAXJA, CRAWL Magazine, and PNWJeep that run them. Mud, snow, rocks, roots, and the 'Con. These tires have outperformed every other tire in all conditions.
Hope this helps.
John
freeincolorado
10-31-2009, 06:18 PM
They also happen to be great in snow. Sidewalls seem to be the weak point with these tires.
I was dead set on them until I saw the new Goodyear MTR's in action.I've wheeled with a bunch of guys from NAXJA, CRAWL Magazine, and PNWJeep that run them. Mud, snow, rocks, roots, and the 'Con. These tires have outperformed every other tire in all conditions.
Hope this helps.
John
I'm putting a set of 31-10.50r15 MTR with Kevlars on my GW next week!
:thumbsup:
freeincolorado
10-31-2009, 06:21 PM
Wow...this is great info!! :thumbsup:
I hope I am not highjacking your thread....but what about a AT tire for a DD that see's a little offroad action.
What would be the best?
Thank you
As stated above BFG All Terrain T/A would be a good choice. Also check out the Goodyear Duratrac or Wrangler Silent Armor.
Johnbaum13
10-31-2009, 07:44 PM
Thanks for the replies guys, and no worries about thread jacking, this is for general info, as well as my own.
Info on my rig: 80 Cherk W/T, 360 bored .060 over. DesktopDyno estimates power at 318 hp and 480 ftlbs. I think that should be enough power. 6" BJs lift, currently open front and rear, D44/AMC20. As far as terrain, everything and everything that gets in my way, not planning on driving on the road any more than absolutely necessary, I've got other cars for that. Heck, I may not even bother getting the thing registered, this is a toy only.
So far I'm leaning towards the Boggers, as several of my friends have suggested these as well.
Keep the suggestions coming!
j20brett
11-02-2009, 09:50 AM
Thanks for the replies guys, and no worries about thread jacking, this is for general info, as well as my own.
Info on my rig: 80 Cherk W/T, 360 bored .060 over. DesktopDyno estimates power at 318 hp and 480 ftlbs. I think that should be enough power. 6" BJs lift, currently open front and rear, D44/AMC20. As far as terrain, everything and everything that gets in my way, not planning on driving on the road any more than absolutely necessary, I've got other cars for that. Heck, I may not even bother getting the thing registered, this is a toy only.
So far I'm leaning towards the Boggers, as several of my friends have suggested these as well.
Keep the suggestions coming!
I would look more at the LTBs than the boggers. If you have access to a tire groover than boggers are ok. they need good siping to be fulley effective. The Pitbull rockers would also be an excellent choice.
mattmopar440
11-02-2009, 10:26 AM
BFG mud terrain KM2 are awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a set of 31" on my Gwag and it goes places 33" struggle.
I think BFG ALts will let you down in the deep mud they just dont clean that fast
Johnbaum13
11-02-2009, 10:32 AM
^^^^Yeah, If I was gonna drive it on the street, Those are prolly what I would run. I have heard good things about them as a dual purpose tire.
Cherokee Squeak
11-02-2009, 11:40 AM
Personally, i'd stick to something in the TSL or TSL/SX range if you're driving it on the street. LTB's wear fast, and are more for lighter rigs.
The TSL and TSL/SX will handle the weight of an FSJ better and is a much tougher tire than the LTB's
Truxus MT's are great for wranglers with a small lift, great on the road, have the look, but if you plan to do wheelin, they're not gonna help much. They're a relatively soft tire for an MT and the sidewalls will fold over pretty easy when air'd down on these heavy rigs.
Plus, TSL's and SX's actually get pretty good mileage out of them if you air them up properly and rotate them regularly.
Hippie Metal
11-02-2009, 11:41 AM
I would vote for the Maxxis Creepy Crawlers. Only thing about them is they are REAAALLLLLLLLLY soft. and wear away on the street in a matter of months. But they are AMAZING in the rocks
glatt513
11-02-2009, 11:44 AM
The only trouble with Boggers is with the hp increase your 360 now has you will undoubtedly break an axle eventually (probably sooner than later). Those tires really hook up and take some big hp to spin. If you go with Yukon 4340 axles you can spin them all day if your driveshafts & tranny hold up, but they will set you back $600 just for the fronts. I run 38" Gumbo Monster Mudders that are cut in the center and use 10 PSI because these will spin easier without breaking stuff (even though I have twisted the stock Spicer outers before and the drivers side front u-joint has been an issue).
It really depends upon what type of terrain you are wheeling in, how determined you are to get to the top and how much money you have to throw at it.
Another plug here for the MTR's. MTR's with front and rear lockers, something selectable (read ARB), are an unstopable combo. I have run them on several of my Jeeps and have always been happy. A close second IMO would be Mickey Thompson MTZ. Had the MTZ's and a rear limited slip on a J4000 and they worked great for the southwest US terrain. They wore suprisingly well for a heavier truck. I ran them for 20K miles before I sold the truck and there was still 50 to 60 percent tread left.
rocklaurence
11-02-2009, 04:57 PM
Where did Greasy Monkey git the 36X11,16's tires and how much did they cost? I like the look of the Tall-n-Skinny tire. A 38X11 Bogger looks great on the FSJ's!:thumbsup:
TPICherokee
11-02-2009, 05:43 PM
The no compromise tire is the Bogger. You just need to make sure you have the power (& gears) to turn them and dont use them up on the road.
Great tire unless you are on a slick sidehill as they have no sideways traction whatsoever... That is where the power comes in but it can get fun.
Prime
11-02-2009, 08:13 PM
I love swamper SXs for trails, and BFs for DD. I also had some 38 ground hawgs and they did real good all around specially slit.
billyrb
11-02-2009, 08:55 PM
another vote for the PBR's
Casey
11-02-2009, 09:10 PM
TSL/SX or some other Swamper :thumbsup:
I wouldn't give a bucket of horse piss for a new set of MTRs.
I vote for ones that hold air......depending on the terrian sidewalls don't last. Bias ply seem to hold up better.
KJ Ryu
11-02-2009, 11:30 PM
TSL/SX or some other Swamper :thumbsup:
I wouldn't give a bucket of horse piss for a new set of MTRs.
I wouldn't give you that for a new set of the old-style MTRs even. I had 'em. They didn't even compare to the TSL Swampers. Although, if I had an unlimited supply of tire money, I'd go with BFG Krawlers. A friend of mine has them and they handle well in any condition, at any pressure. Don't seem to be showing much wear, either. I think he has about 8K on them by now. Probably about 50/50 hwy/trail most of those trails being very sharp rock
ARouser
11-03-2009, 08:20 AM
For Mud you are leaning the right direction...Stay away from the KM2.
Interco Tire ( Super Swamper) Has the mud market down.
But for an all type of off road terrain my vote is for the TSL/SX
Tough tire with meaty lugs that shed well and have great sidewall tread for some slinging.
And if you find yourself in some sandy/rocky terrain you'll hang with the best of em. Assuming you can point em the right direction :drivin:
Woody the Danger Wagon
11-03-2009, 08:37 AM
BFG mud terrain KM2 are awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a set of 31" on my Gwag and it goes places 33" struggle.
I think BFG ALts will let you down in the deep mud they just dont clean that fast
Just got mine a couple weeks ago. 35s. Love em. They aren't noisey on the road either, which is pretty sweet as agressive as the tread is.
orangecherokee
11-04-2009, 07:12 AM
Pitbull Rockers, they are very strong as we tend to have heavy rigs. I run a set of 39.5x16.5x16 on my j truck. Got to their website and read about them, also Pirate has many write ups never read anything bad about the tires. Good Luck
x2
just got a set myself and love them. They hook up great and are softer than an IROK.
MRS and I mounted my PBRs last night, this weekend I will test them out.
39.5x16.5x16.5 on 12 bolt H1s
billyrb
11-04-2009, 07:50 AM
....They hook up great and are softer than an IROK.
Plus they have a stronger / better sidewall that will last a LOT longer :)
duncanstives
11-04-2009, 08:00 AM
I have nothing to add I just find OP's username amusing.
I have nothing to add I just find OP's username amusing.
:confused:
madmikeX3
11-04-2009, 09:25 AM
The new MT/R's with Kevlar seem to be getting the best ratings out of all the 4 wheel drive magazines Ive been reading. Try looking at past issues where they compare many many many popular tires. Me i have some BF Goodrich T/A KO Radials on my baby 98 Cherokee and they seem to suck pretty bad in the Mud. I'm going to go with Some Mice MT/R's on both my baby jeep and my FSJ.
duncanstives
11-04-2009, 11:38 AM
:confused:
I am assuming it came from the the TV Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The young John Connor (obviously a fugitive) called himself John Baum... Its a creative way around the fact that the name John Connor is likely taken. Of course it could just be his name in which case I guess its just a cool name... It just seems like an unusual name which is why I assumed thats what it was based on.
Heimeken
11-05-2009, 01:14 PM
This question is like asking "Who makes the best burger?" :D
Cherokee Squeak
11-05-2009, 02:39 PM
This question is like asking "Who makes the best burger?" :D
Tu Madre :thumbsup:
Big-wagon87
11-05-2009, 03:08 PM
Here in the southeast rear Boggers and front Tsl combo can bet hard to beat make shure to groove yur boggers.
Cherokee Squeak
11-05-2009, 03:19 PM
Here in the southeast rear Boggers and front Tsl combo can bet hard to beat make shure to groove yur boggers.
I second this.
Johnbaum13
11-05-2009, 08:28 PM
I am assuming it came from the the TV Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The young John Connor (obviously a fugitive) called himself John Baum... Its a creative way around the fact that the name John Connor is likely taken. Of course it could just be his name in which case I guess its just a cool name... It just seems like an unusual name which is why I assumed thats what it was based on.
Actually, I was unaware of that reference, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I've actually had this nick-name since about '01. My name is John, and baum is German for tree (I'm half German), and a female roommate back in the day gave me the nick-name, and it just kinda stuck. Oh, and 13 is my birth day.
Headhoncho
11-06-2009, 11:29 AM
I've run 38" SX's and 37" BFG KM2's and they're very comparable in all terrain. On the road the KM's definately get the nod and in the mud the swampers leave me with more piece of mind although the KM's did not dissapoint. If I stayed out of deep mud, it would be a lock for the KM's only because I drive too far to get places and the wear factor plus balance issues associated with the swampers makes them less appealing.
JR
LYRCH
11-06-2009, 07:51 PM
HANKOOK RF10 IS A GREAT TIRE SELL THEM ALL DAY LONG TO USDA FIRE DIVISION AND THEY OUT PERFORMED BFG A/T IN PETERSONS
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