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mad dog
04-17-2003, 05:25 AM
I'm new to this type of transfer case, I've been having problems with 2 high. I own an 85 GRW when I put it into drive it grinds and clunks. It goes fine in reverse and 4 high. I have taken my transmission and transfer case out I am rebuilding the transmission, I was just wondering if there is anyway to check the transfer case while I have it out without taking it apart. I also noticed that the T.C. was low on fluid and that the vacum shift was not working properly. I would still like to know that everything is in good mechanical shape before I put it back in the wagoneer. Thanks for any help

Marc_01
04-17-2003, 06:43 AM
Only thing I know of is to stick your finger in the drain hole and see if you can feel some metal shavings.

My case ran on low oil and fried a bearing, it ran fine but would clank and clunk once in a while.

Since you will have it off, just pop the case open and check it out.

89grand
04-17-2003, 07:40 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Marc_01:
[QB]Only thing I know of is to stick your finger in the drain hole and see if you can feel some metal shavings.

Should this be done while driving or only when parked?

mad dog
04-17-2003, 08:07 AM
The only thing I'm worried about is that if I split the case, will abunch of parts fall out? I really don't want to mess with it, if it is not broke.
I'm getting rid of the vacuum shift I'm going to use a choke control cable to shift it from 2-to-4 wheel drive. It does not have lines going to the front axle. Is this a bad idea?

Has anybody ever rebuilt one of these and if so how complicated was it?

Joe Guilbeau
04-17-2003, 08:24 PM
Your mode range and rod range should be adjusted, it is not being fully engaged and the vacuum or lack of it certainly does not help.

Those stupid shift forks...

mad dog
04-18-2003, 01:31 AM
Thanks that is what I was kind of thinking, but like I said I'm new to this type of transfer case.

How dependable is the Np 229, I'm not going to use it for rough ridding just for pulling a boat and small camper. The only time I need 4 wheel is at the boat launch and once in awhile in the snow, and mud.

Kimbrough
04-18-2003, 04:09 AM
Check for vacuum leaks too!
The 229 needs good vacuum to shift correctly. Follow the vac lines from the switch on the dash to the t-case and look for cracks and listen for hissing noises. Don't forget there are 2 plastic vac lines that run ON TOP of the t-case just under the floor where the trans tunnel is.

Rockwagon
04-18-2003, 06:01 AM
Mine also had those symtons just before the VC (viscuss coupler) exploded it is what allows you to run 4 hi on pavment.

Bob Barry
04-18-2003, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by mad dog:
The only thing I'm worried about is that if I split the case, will abunch of parts fall out? I really don't want to mess with it, if it is not broke.
I'm getting rid of the vacuum shift I'm going to use a choke control cable to shift it from 2-to-4 wheel drive. It does not have lines going to the front axle. Is this a bad idea?

Has anybody ever rebuilt one of these and if so how complicated was it?I've rebuilt the transfer-case before; the only thing I had to have a tranny shop do is press in the sun-gear bushing and hone it to fit on the shaft.

The viscous coupler is a non-rebuildable item that must be replaced as a unit, however, at a cost of $350. (ouch!)

If you convert to cable-operation, a choke cable won't be stiff enough. Try a snow-plow control cable instead. I've heard NAPA carries them, though I've never really looked for one myself.

And yes, if you don't pull things apart carefully, a LOT of really small needle-bearings will go all over the frakin' place. AMHIK. Get a manual with the rebuild procedures, split the case with the back-end facing up (I build a holding fixture out of a 2"x12" board; cost about $5, but saved endless frustration!), and don't just go pulling up on the mainshaft. That's where all the non-captive needle-bearings reside, and it's not intuitive what you can and cannot lift up without playing 206-needle-bearing pickup.

Jeepadilly
04-18-2003, 02:30 PM
Do your front wheel hubs have aftermarket locking hubs? Having the hubs in free when you engage the 4H will cause all sorts of s##t to happen inside the 229
Regards
Brian

ffej
04-19-2003, 05:15 AM
And the 229 is a dependable TC for what you need it for!

mad dog
04-23-2003, 07:43 AM
Thanks everyone for your input, I've been rebuilding the transmission. It really isn't that bad of a job as long as you take your time and clean, clean, clean. I quess my best bet is to go ahead and take the transfer case apart and check it. It is out of the truck and I would rather make sure everything is working before I put it back in.

Jeepadilly, it is all original, has the auto front hubs. I have also heard lock outs will raise heck with the T.C. if your not carefull.

Bob Barry, thanks for the cable info, that was a concern of mine. Like I said I think I will go ahead and pull the case apart, thanks for the tip on putting it into a 2 by 12.

FYR WOOD
04-23-2003, 12:41 PM
yea...I've had two 229's with those symptoms right before the VC goes kaboom. Swap in a 208 and forget it.

Scott