J Truck plastic gas filler bezel [Archive] - International Full Size Jeep Association

red mistress

10-01-2009, 09:41 AM

I've searched the world over for a NOS J Truck plastic gas filler bezel... like trying to find the Hope Diamond....all used up.

How many people would be interested in a Reproduction plastic Bezel ?

Probably cost less than 25 bucks...shipped.

Need to get 50 pre-sold.

Wouldn't have the "Unleaded Fuel Only" engraved like OEM, but there is guy already making decals for CJ that say that.

Billygoat

10-01-2009, 10:12 AM

Likley be interested in buying 2, will know more once I figure out how I am doing my dual tanks with my thriftside, my entire fill setup will be custom.

shackwrrr

10-01-2009, 10:19 AM

Theres a discussion in the wanted section about it. Zack wants to make them

JeepBountyHunter

10-01-2009, 10:21 AM

How about stainless? Aren't the one's from the CJ's the same?

2ToneBluJ10

10-01-2009, 10:25 AM

What material will they be made out of HDPE or Polypropylene?

You going to make any improvements to the design, i.e. strengthening the corners around screw holes so they don't split like the originals did?

What kind of mold?

Injection molded?

I'm interested mine is cracked.

red mistress

10-01-2009, 10:39 AM

Due to the very limited market for FSJ parts....

The reproduction will be same as CJ, but without ANY holes drilled in bezel.

So no improvements will be made.

I suggest buying several as spares if your're worried about them aging and cracking like the OEM ones did from being bent to fit bedsides.

I think this is going to be our ONE AND ONLY answer....

If there is enough interest Zack at Z&M Jeeps may run with it.

zmjeeps

10-01-2009, 10:43 AM

If I decide to make these, they WILL have the correct holes in them for the FSJ on the outside edge. You have to understand, without the CJ one to start from, these never get made...

Zack

red mistress

10-01-2009, 10:45 AM

If I decide to make these, they WILL have the correct holes in them for the FSJ on the outside edge. You have to understand, without the CJ one to start from, these never get made...

Zack

I'd take them with the correct holes or no holes in bezel.

Thanks for doing this Zack !!!!

sflier

10-01-2009, 11:09 AM

Put me down for one.

frank_c

10-01-2009, 02:30 PM

i'd buy one.

red mistress

10-02-2009, 10:16 PM

Post up.

Let's unite & get this done.

RUparrothead

10-03-2009, 06:05 AM

I'd take one.

seventynine

10-03-2009, 08:10 AM

I'll take one.

Dean

red mistress

10-03-2009, 05:49 PM

cool... Already 15-20 spoken for.

Maybe this will happen! With IFSJA's help...

I search super hard for NOS...but if I found a 30 year old plastic gas filler part...bet it would be hard and not pliable...so would crack upon installation.

This is one of the ... Repro's are better than OEM .

red mistress

10-16-2009, 03:31 PM

TTT...

Help get er dun.

Clean RC

10-16-2009, 03:42 PM

depending on per unit cost.. I will be down for two or four (depending on cost)..

sflier

10-16-2009, 05:01 PM

You can change my order to two also as my second J10 will eventully need one ... and it's not like I'm ever going to sell either of them :o .

red mistress

10-16-2009, 05:23 PM

:dancingbanana: Cool :) we keep this up and this may come to reality.

The price each will certainly go down when you combine shipping.
They don't weigh much and can fit inside each other, so won't take much larger box for several either.

I don't imagine that once the 50 are made that there is enough interest out there to ever get another batch made up.

So guess consider these a limited production reproduction. :D

The more I type and think about it, I'm increasing my order also.

Zack we getting close yet?

zmjeeps

10-16-2009, 05:49 PM

I count 14 or so. Any chance of getting to 25? (I have to buy 100...)

Zack

Zack we getting close yet?

grand_wag_85

10-16-2009, 05:51 PM

Lemme see what the one on mine looks like. If it is bad then I will be interested.

JERSEY JOE

10-16-2009, 06:29 PM

I WILL TAKE 4 OF THEM

jlewis

10-16-2009, 08:39 PM

mine is cracked so I will buy one

I WILL TAKE 4 OF THEM

Sian09

10-17-2009, 08:50 AM

Put me down for one too!

87 j10

10-17-2009, 10:17 PM

Hi Zack,

Mine is "ok" but I'd be into putting a brand new one on.
Mark

red mistress

10-20-2009, 09:44 AM

TTT...

Knuck

10-20-2009, 10:09 AM

Put me down for 1. The one on my sons truck is still good. I don't believe its cracked at all but a spare would be good for the cost.

lycanthrope

10-21-2009, 10:57 AM

Put me down for two, please.

2ToneBluJ10

10-21-2009, 12:56 PM

TTT...

Less than 25 bux shipped

I'll take 2.

One to replace the cracked one on my truck now and a spare for when the replacement cracks. You guys picked which type of plastic their going to be molded with? (please pick something better than the original material...hopefully something that can flex just enough to fit the bed contour without as much strain as the originals)

Clean RC

10-21-2009, 01:20 PM

TTT...

Less than 25 bux shipped

I am in for 4 please....:thumbsup:

red mistress

10-21-2009, 01:24 PM

I have a NOS plastic filler bezel which I installed on my CJ-8.

Package was dated MFG. 85

As 2toneblue eluded to... the OEM black plastic is made from hard material.

I took a reproduction bezel off CJ-8 and it is slightly more flexible than OEM.

I dunno if it's age of plastic or if there wasn't as much plastic technology in 80's ..... Or combination of both.

These " J Truck bezels " are CJ reproduction with J Truck mounting pattern.

What I do know is these bezels are our only shot of getting new ones.

As U can see from this thread we're having hard time getting 25 pre-orders....

...

red mistress

10-26-2009, 08:54 AM

Lets make this happen.

red mistress

11-04-2009, 11:39 AM

I dunno if there is enough interest in these to make it happen. :(

Knuck

11-04-2009, 11:43 AM

25 people, or 25 pcs? A quick count looks like its dang close to 25pcs.

red mistress

11-04-2009, 02:31 PM

Zack's pre-sold a few also, there's a break even number for him.

Origionally it was supposed to be 50 see my first post.

Hope we can make it happen, but dunno. :(

baybilly

11-04-2009, 07:23 PM

I'll take two, are they going to have the unleaded only sticker on them also. :D just kidden.

2ToneBluJ10

01-25-2010, 07:13 AM

Bump

TK421

01-25-2010, 07:17 AM

I'm down for 2 as well!

zmjeeps

01-26-2010, 10:08 AM

Its as simple as this folks. If I can get ORDERS (not I'll take one), orders, for 30 of these, at $25 a piece plus shipping (will use cheapest possible, like USPS flat rate), then I can do it. By my count looking through this thread, it looks like we might be close. So now is the time. Let's do this.

Zack

red mistress

01-26-2010, 10:34 AM

Cool, you must of talked the Mfg. down on the quanity for a "run"

How do we place order? :)

Knuck

01-26-2010, 11:46 AM

I will place an order for 2 today. Just need the info.

fulsizjeep

01-26-2010, 02:52 PM

For those who are not sure, this is for 78-87 Jtrucks - not the same for the Cherks and Wags.

They wern't all black either - the white trucks had white bezels in the earlier productions 78 - ? years also.

sflier

01-26-2010, 03:01 PM

I'll order 2 today, I'll PM you for the details.

zmjeeps

01-26-2010, 03:17 PM

I realize that some of the early J-truck bezels were white. These will be black.
To order, send me a PM with how many you want, your Paypal email address (or how you will pay, Visa, MC, but don't include the #) and I will send $ requests when I get enough.
Please include your shipping zip code in the PM.
Thanks,

Zack

mdill

01-26-2010, 07:10 PM

I therefore assume that asking for a chartreuse one is a waste of time?

zmjeeps

01-27-2010, 08:06 AM

I therefore assume that asking for a chartreuse one is a waste of time?

zmjeeps smacks mdill upside the head with a large trout 11874

billyj7175

01-27-2010, 09:21 AM

Put me down for one...pm sent.

baybilly

01-27-2010, 06:47 PM

PM sent

red mistress

01-28-2010, 03:00 PM

Time is now to get this reproduction accomplished.

25 and shipping should be around 5, no money down until order placed.

zmjeeps

01-29-2010, 07:14 AM

As I suspected, so far we have all the way 8 spoken for...

Zack

red mistress

01-29-2010, 08:25 AM

This is like the United Way fund drive.... we're 1/3 of necessary goal. :)

J Trucks everywhere need this..... :fsj:

JERSEY JOE

01-29-2010, 09:02 AM

I WOULD LIKE TO GET 4 OF THESE @ $25.00EACH. WHERE DO I SEND THE $$$$ ?

2ToneBluJ10

01-29-2010, 09:54 AM

I PM'd for 2 pieces a few days ago.

I hope this gets done.

Now where can I find those pesky Unleaded fuel stickers?

red mistress

01-29-2010, 10:07 AM

I PM'd for 2 pieces a few days ago.

I hope this gets done.

Now where can I find those pesky Unleaded fuel stickers?

Kyle KGT001 has whole box of them, sells for 3.99

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140358131004

Knuck

01-29-2010, 10:10 AM

I WOULD LIKE TO GET 4 OF THESE @ $25.00EACH. WHERE DO I SEND THE $$$$ ?

See post #43 above, it has all the details.

2ToneBluJ10

01-29-2010, 11:24 AM

Kyle KGT001 has whole box of them, sells for 3.99

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140358131004

Thanks Red Mistress I'll have to keep that in mind if this comes be.

2ToneBluJ10

02-11-2010, 05:00 PM

ttt

2ToneBluJ10

02-12-2010, 06:19 PM

It's looking like this ain't happening.

So i'm going to go this route to get one.

Buy 2 of the reproduction ones for CJs with 3 holes in them($8.99 ea. at 4WD Hardware by Omix-Ada) Heres a pic of the reproduction part.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2z7hojn.jpg

I'm going to use one as a sacrafical part to get the same plastic welding material to fill in the holes on the other. I'll fill the holes to be little above the flange and then trim them down with an exacto knife so that their flush with the surface. From the apearance of the reproduction part shown above the mold didn't have a very highly polished finish like the originals have, so I'll try to flame the visible surfaces to get a glossy finish and blend in the welds.

I have some experience welding polypropylene and the welds do lose some of there flexability and I'm not sure what material the repros are made of or how it will react to welding.

I figure if doesn't work I'm only out about $25. What you guys think? Any tips?

red mistress

02-12-2010, 07:28 PM

the reproduction CJ fillers are made from "softer plastic".

Which I am thinking will be better for the curve of the townside bed.

Good observation on OEM being more "glossy" finish.

It's pitiful that we can't get enough preorders to get gas fillers reproduced.

baybilly

02-21-2010, 04:53 PM

so are we dead in the water on this ?? bump back up.

red mistress

02-22-2010, 12:28 PM

so are we dead in the water on this ?? bump back up.

I sure hope not.... Zack how many more needed ?

zmjeeps

02-22-2010, 12:41 PM

I sure hope not.... Zack how many more needed ?

Only have preorders for 10...

Zack

men in black

08-17-2010, 05:11 PM

Well I checked into making them and having them made, making them from scratch was cost prohibitive.

There is not enough demand for them to cover the cost of getting a mold made.

2ToneBluJ10

08-18-2010, 06:48 AM

I found one in pretty nice shape. Took awhile.
http://i28.tinypic.com/2n00xvo.jpg

Also solid modeled some. Flat like the original ones and curved to fit the bed. Also too cost prohibitive to reproduce in the US, not so much in China, but the langauge barrier and lack of recourse if somethings not right with the mold or parts.

mklyon

08-18-2010, 08:27 AM

if you are talking about the black outer ring that has "unleaded fuel only", put me down for one.

red mistress

08-18-2010, 09:52 AM

Dave that is incredible, did U touch up the white lettering?
If it comes up missing at next years PA show, don't get mad at me, I cant help it. :D

I've searched the world over twice..... looking for a NOS gas filler...no one has seen in 20 years.

I found one in pretty nice shape. Took awhile.
http://i28.tinypic.com/2n00xvo.jpg

Also solid modeled some. Flat like the original ones and curved to fit the bed. Also too cost prohibitive to reproduce in the US, not so much in China, but the langauge barrier and lack of recourse if somethings not right with the mold or parts.

2ToneBluJ10

08-18-2010, 11:17 AM

Dave that is incredible, did U touch up the white lettering?
If it comes up missing at next years PA show, don't get mad at me, I cant help it. :D

I've searched the world over twice..... looking for a NOS gas filler...no one has seen in 20 years.

Hey Dennis! Thats a used one I found or should I say lucked into :D , not NOS. No touch up job on the letters. They are the original hot stamped letters...only letter thats not quit perfect is the tail on the letter "Y". I also learned the reason that Jeep didn't made those curved to fit the rounded bedsides, it was because back when they were made, curved surfaces couldn't be hot stamped as easily as today. Please don't ask how I learned that one.

Dennis you could always show up at Jeff Daniels Show... your Scramber would surely win the CJ-8 class. :thumbsup:

You could probably pry the bezel off the at that show while I'm not lookin.:D :D :D

j10jim

12-08-2010, 06:18 PM

So there were never enough orders? What number are you at now. I would be glad to buy (Pre order) one today if it looks like they will be made. if not, then I will get the CJ one (am relocating the filler neck to the bed side behind the wheel for a rear tank.

Tripwire

12-08-2010, 06:43 PM

would these fit a grand wag as well?

Trip:drivin:

Crist Clapper

12-09-2010, 07:09 AM

Me to on the GW?

would these fit a grand wag as well?

Trip:drivin:

2ToneBluJ10

12-09-2010, 05:07 PM

would these fit a grand wag as well?

Trip:drivin:

Will not fit a GW only J trucks. I messed with getting a mold made...it was gonna cost around 10K. Even looked at it with the mounting flange curved to fit the bed side contour so the holes wouldn't crack as easy,that mold cost was gonna be much more. I couldn't sell enough of them in a hundred years to pay off that kind of cost.

http://i45.tinypic.com/343m5ox.jpg

TexTJ209

12-09-2010, 05:28 PM

2ToneBluJ10

12-09-2010, 05:52 PM

What about having them made of sheet metal instead, and just having a rubber grommet between the cab and bed? I'd imagine the fabrication costs would be far less than a plastic mold, and it'd be more durable, especially once powder coated. (Here's those chartreuse and white ones y'all want! :p)

Since the outer "trim ring" would be a separate part welded on, I'd imagine having the UNLEADED FUEL ONLY machined or somehow added into the ring wouldn't terribly increase the cost, and could even be made into an option for extra $.

I've seen the existing aftermarket sheet metal ones for CJs, I was kind of going for very close to OEM.

(I always got a kick out of seeing the ricers all trashed up with pink, purple, and chartreuse stuff in the boneyards that some guy had visions of grandeur with!) :D

red mistress

12-10-2010, 08:40 AM

What about having them made of sheet metal instead, and just having a rubber grommet between the cab and bed? I'd imagine the fabrication costs would be far less than a plastic mold, and it'd be more durable, especially once powder coated. (Here's those chartreuse and white ones y'all want! :p)

Since the outer "trim ring" would be a separate part welded on, I'd imagine having the UNLEADED FUEL ONLY machined or somehow added into the ring wouldn't terribly increase the cost, and could even be made into an option for extra $.

We can't even get a pre-order of 50 for the CJ bezels with J truck mounting holes .....for 25 bux each.

I finally found a nice OEM one that I can live with....til I find NOS. :D