Front Bumper build, Rock lights, Winch Mount & Pics

[Metal Twister]

Some of you might remember when I started this thing. I had a long thread on it with all the build pics. Then I got this great idea to make albums on photobucket. Lost all the pics and learned a big lesson that day. :mad:

Anyway heres a very quick up date on the bumper build.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/CopyofShaffersModelA003.jpg
I wanted to get away from the prerunner tube bumper so I started with rectangular 1/4" thick tubing.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/ShaffersModelA010.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/ShaffersModelA020.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/ShaffersModelA017.jpg

[Metal Twister]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/chucks35chevy005.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/chucks35chevy006.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/shop032.jpg
the bottom was notched on the underside to house a couple rock lights.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/shop035.jpg

[Metal Twister]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/shop047.jpg
The front mounts were added with grade 8's bolt heads
welded in place.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/shop016.jpg
I mounted a few oval running lights in the front of the bumper.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/mallet004.jpg
Threw it on for a test fit, trimming length for the end caps and fabbed up the side mounts.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/bombidereseats030.jpg I had it powder coated silver vane. Which is black under and silver splatters on it.

[Metal Twister]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/bumper005.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/bumper002-1.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/bumper004.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/bumper011.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/bumper007.jpg
added my rock lights underneath the bumper and some H2 headlights to the mix. Next is the body work to make the ends match the width of the rig. The control box for the winch will go behind the head lights.:eek: I attached the recepticle to bumper for the pig tail remote control so it will look just like this when its all hooked up.

[Sambo]

wow that is some dayum good work:thumbsup: i like the addition of the rock lights;)

[Dirtball]

Man that IS nice... wow... most talented!

[Metal Twister]

Thanks guys for the props... It took a little longer to finish than I was planning on, but it did get done so its all good. Any ideas for the rear Bumper? Any one need a very straight 74 front stock bumper?

[Stuka]

Very nice job. I like the mounts too, ties everything together nicely.

[J10Mike]

Very nice. One of the best FSJ bumper builds I have seen to date...Bravo.

[Artisan]

Very Nice....

At the mid-span joint, indicated w/ the yellow arrow, to start did you sever the tube in half, making a cut in degrees that would be 50% of
the angle of the valance as I indicated w/ a black line on the pink field then weld it back together?

Great job...
http://www.plumbers.cc/images/ebay/bump.jpg

[Metal Twister]

Very Nice....

At the mid-span joint, indicated w/ the yellow arrow, to start did you sever the tube in half, making a cut in degrees that would be 50% of
the angle of the valance as I indicated w/ a black line on the pink field then weld it back together?

Great job...
http://www.plumbers.cc/images/ebay/bump.jpg

That is what I did almost... I cut it all the way in half then did the mitre cuts and re attached it. I think it was a 12 degree mitre cut, but I could of gone a few degrees more. I was trying to follow the lines of the front vallance.
Maybe this is a better shot of that.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/ShaffersModelA002.jpg

[Randyzzz]

That is an awesome bumper! Great fab work!

[68_Gladiator]

haha the paint job is that of many of those bowlflex knock off home gym things, looks identical

[Metal Twister]

I first saw this Power coating on a couple of the Poison Spider Rigs. Ian Johnson has used it on a few of his builds where he has powder coated our clamps to match. In fact the same stuff is used in elevators, and the marques in the drive throughs at Jack in the box. Those Bowflex knock off guys know a quality look when they see one. :thumbsup: I get so tired of the same ole stuff... BLACK

[trail mule]

That is one of the best looking wagoneer bumpers I have ever seen!!! :thumbsup:

[Chief Gunner]

I gotta say, that looks nice. I remember seeing it mid construction and I knew you were on to something hot. Minus wench and lights, what is the ballpark cost to build a bumper like that? Curious minds wanna know. Great job, makes me proud to know you. Thoughs of you living in the SOCAL area should stop by and see MT's shop. He has some very cool projects lined up. I always enjoy seeing what he is up too.

[TINMAN93]

Very nice.

Well designed, fabbed, finished and thought out.

And the lights are very cool!

Tinman

[billyrb]

that's a really nice bumper. Although I like them a bit taller, I think that is one heck of a nice design and a well executed build :)

[Metal Twister]

Wow, thanks guys... I was expecting to be taken to the wood shed because it was different. :)

Chief, to be honest it took alot longer to build than even I thought it would. Even though the first one or the proto type always takes longer to build. By the time all the slice and dice work was done, all the welding, all the grinding, cleaning, filling of pin holes, re welding and grinding. I had well over 3 days into it. Mind you, I never could just work on it straight for 3 days. My shop rate is $60.00 per hour x 3 days $1440.00. Before Powder coat and installation.:eek: I did do some mods to the front body to make it set up tight but was done quickly with the plasma cutter. Im sure if I was mass producing them I could get the cost down a bit. Guessing around $1100.00 or so. But as you know everything we build except our Suspension Seats, Hot Rod seats and Baja Clamps are one off customs. Time is Money... :rolleyes: It has given me a new appreciation for the cost of the ARB bumpers.

[billyrb]

That is exactly why most folks don't understand bumper pricing. Unless you are dealing with a TJ / wrangler style that has several hundred thousand produced on a stamping machine, it's darn hard to get a good bumper for a low price. Custom bumpers take time & materials, both of which cost money. The better the builder, the more it costs.

[Metal Twister]

Very true... Labor cost is really a big deal... I could have this punched out in china for about $200.00 finished and delv'ed in a nice box, Turn around and charge $500.00. But then you have the same thing as everyone else. A cheap ARSS bumper built in some sweat shop with all the quality corners cut, and you still have to modify it to get it on your rig. I do understand the temptation to buy cheap specially for a toy, But the fact is, a well built, functonal USA bumper has to pay for the designing of it, materials in it, skilled labor to put it together, the gas electricity and wire to build it, Its share of the rent to build it in, the powder coating to make it apealing, the box and packaging to ship it in.

I couldnt, and wouldnt pay my guys $5.00 a day for all the work involved in building this thing. It bothered me to put the chinese knockoff winch on the rig... but it was a gift and I needed to use it. I digress here... The soap box has been removed. Thanks again guys for the props on the bumper. Feel free to build yours like it if you would like and appreciate what you have invested in it. Remember Change is Opportunity, EXCEPT IN POLITICS!. LOL

[billyrb]

ha....they all talked about change....they never said it would be NEGATIVE change ;)

[Artisan]

I think the above as Metal Twister has built is very cool as I stated, I am kinda w/ Ryan though I would like to see a lil more meat to mine. In hind sight I am sure changes would be made if it were done again. Any bumper
takes a good long time to design and build a one off. MT took 3 full days from scratch designing from scratch and raw metal tube.

I do believe this could be built from nothing but flat plate and not tube. I bet if a guy wanted to do production or sell in kit form it would prob be mandatory, shipping in a small box saves if it were shipped in kit form. If flat plate is feasable then each and every surface can be designated a dimentional value and cut w/ a water jet (or) very quickly, then all parts could welded up cutting "some" costs. Your still gonna have a $600 or so final selling price (lights, wiring etc NIC) , OR, sell the pieces and let the guys weld it up themselves... :thumbsup:

I have not opened my AutoCAD program for 6 months. I plan on drawing my own bumpers eventually and having the pieces cut. I thought I would very quickly refresh myself (dims are guessed) my drawing skills w/ a similar design to this one. I am a CAD novice and I drew this in about 45 minutes.

Just draw up all "parts" and send it out to 30-40 water jet companies at mfg.com for bid to see who wants to loose the most money :p , give tolerances and specs to adhere to and viola! Start Weldin'!
http://www.plumbers.cc/images/ebay/bumperwinchtest.jpg

[brubakes]

Looks amazing! I love it.

[Metal Twister]

Just that fast... It took me a few days just to decide if I liked the concept. Heck you guys have it drawn and at the water jet table in less than 24 hours. :eek: Im doing something wrong!:cool: Actually I dont want to be in the bumper business. :drivin: Keep us posted on your progress. And just an FYI. The Winch plate is cut to the same angle as the back side of the bumper and welded to the back surface of the bumper as well. Lot more structural strength, at least that is what Solid works tells me?

[Artisan]

Too funny! :D

NOPE, I will not be taking ANY orders bro...that is your business. Just flappin' my jaws is all.......... I am GLAD I opened up AutoCAD though, I am getting rusty...

PS, I think the valance angle is 7 degrees . I checked it w/ a digital angle finder, one of those jobs that is like 30" long and pivots in the middle. I want to get 2 long pieces of "something" and check it again for a good overall measurement. 7 will be dam close though...


Just that fast... It took me a few days just to decide if I liked the concept. Heck you guys have it drawn and at the water jet table in less than 24 hours. :eek: Im doing something wrong!:cool: Actually I dont want to be in the bumper business. :drivin: Keep us posted on your progress. And just an FYI. The Winch plate is cut to the same angle as the back side of the bumper and welded to the back surface of the bumper as well. Lot more structural strength, at least that is what Solid works tells me?

[billyrb]

that's basically our Cliffhanger bumper series with a few minor differences ;)

[Metal Twister]

Thats the trick... try building it so its not like everone elses. Its hard to do, be different anyone can copy. Id buy a cliffhanger!:fsj:

[Artisan]

MT did you draw that in Solidworks? ...and yes, the winch plate should go clear thru the tube and weld up to the rear. The lower part of my drawing was a top view. :D And a REAL QUICK drawing at that! I hope no one uses that drawing, I clearly wrote the dims were guessed....

[Metal Twister]

No problem at all. If it was something that I was going to produce in quantity it would be available in quantities to the public before I ever would post up a thread on how to build it. And I did give written permission to use it in any way you want here. :thumbsup: Even though I think this is a good example of how quickly a idea can be replicated and reproduced by just about anyone these days. I have had a company go into the local offroad shop and buy my products off the shelf, With in a month they were approached with a Chinese knock off at 1/2 the price. Thats when I really realized the value of design. As Mentioned earlier everything I do is a one off Product and that is the reason why. I hate knock offs! And yes I use Solid works but those are my personal files and they stay in the puter. I also use the Bendtech Pro version which works very well for the tube work.

[wickedwagon767]

ha....they all talked about change....they never said it would be NEGATIVE change ;)

political marketing ploys

people eat 'em up every time it seems:rolleyes:

[wickedwagon767]

exceptional work on the bumper Metal Twister. I also would prefer one a bit taller ,but thats just preferance. My aim isn't so good and more metal would decrease damage elsewhere:D

really nice work

[Metal Twister]

Here in the So Cal deserts its not too brutal. I am building this for cross country adventure runs in our local deserts and didn't see the need for battering ram, More ground Clearance at the attack angle was more in my way of thinking when designing it. It was a fun relaxing build and have some ideas on a rear bumper that im anxious to get started on. I think I want it to wrap all the way to the rear of the rear fender flairs and act as a slider at the same time. Might look a little goofy until I get the semi exo cage/ roof rack tied in to it but I will post the pics and take the abuse anyway.:thumbsup: And thanks for the props on the work, Best thing a fabricator could hear!:rolleyes:

[Dan Stewart]

Very cool. What size tube did you start out with?
Do you have any pics on how it moutned to the truck? Looking at my mounts today, I beleive you trimmed the ends of the frame off to push the bumper closer to the grill. I am curious to see how you mounted it.

tHanks!

[Metal Twister]

The rig is at the shop so i will take some pics of the mounting tomorrow for ya. Charger game for now!:thumbsup:

[Woody the Danger Wagon]

Excellent work. I love admiring a job well done. That is something to be proud of.

[Metal Twister]

Very cool. What size tube did you start out with?
Do you have any pics on how it moutned to the truck? Looking at my mounts today, I beleive you trimmed the ends of the frame off to push the bumper closer to the grill. I am curious to see how you mounted it.

tHanks!
I just removed the original bumper mounts and bolted this up flush on the cross member with 3 0 1/2" grade 8 bolts.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/swaybar003.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/swaybar004.jpg

And here is a pic of the side just being held on with one bolt at the time of the pic.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/swaybar002.jpg

[Dan Stewart]

Very nice. I may have t mimic your design :) I have a 4x4 peice of tubing i may use.

[Metal Twister]

Have at and post up the pics when you get urdone. I started with a 4 x 6" piece.

[Metal Twister]

that's basically our Cliffhanger bumper series with a few minor differences ;)

This got me thinking... Hope you didnt think I copied you? If the similarities are that close its is totally by accident. Sorry about that.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/bumper004-1.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/clifffrontcorner.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/bumper013-1.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/clifffront.jpg

[Metal Twister]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/bumper005-1.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/clifffronttop.jpg


Side by side I think they are different enough, dont you?:thumbsup:

[coyote220]

Metal Twister,

I prefer your more compact version. Just my preference. I'll start saving my $$!!

[Metal Twister]

LOL, Everyone is different with different tastes, thank God!
You will have to save up and buy the cliff hanger and make it narrower... Im not in that business. :D

[AlsChopShop]

VERY nice work! i initially thought it would be too small, but now its finished i really like the look. nice and compact to keep it from plowing on the rocks. nice job. :thumbsup:

Al

[Artisan]

The 1 st pic below is what has me currently doing AutoCAD Donuts...
Obviously you have holes drilled in the support plates for something and
it must be something other than that particular year frame I would assume since there are no bolts in them. No matter...You did this...

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/swaybar002.jpg

The connection to the frame w/o using the weak OE bumper brackets is what I have been chewin' on. I am "attempting" to draw the front portion of the frame on my 79' J10 so when I do go to make a bumper I can easily draw these supports and have them cut via water jet. It is a b1tch... Here is what I have so far, I can "Plot" this 1:1 and then cut it out with sizzors and use a leather punch to punch the 3- .5" holes in the triangular pattern, insert bolts thru the frame then slip the paper cutout over the 3 bolts. SO I am taking the 1:1 cutout paper and lay it against the frame and much of this is DAM CLOSE, it is a work in progress, the 3 triangular holes I have nailed. I need to figure out how to measure back to the 2 threaded bolt holes that are OE on the frame L and R, then dim them X and Y in relation to the front 3- .5 holes and then connect the dots so to speak so I end up w/ 5 bolts holding EACH side ( Plus other things like a support between the triangular holes at the very front) It is HARD...:mad:

http://www.plumbers.cc/images/ebay/frame-start.jpg

[Metal Twister]

The pics of the side mount are just being held on with one bolt because that is all I had in the bin that were long enough. I do my shopping for shop stuff on Saturdays so it will be that way for another week. :D I dont get all wound up drawing too much. I see it in my head first then usually just make it. Id be drawing for ever and never get anything done if I did that for everything. I did do a snap line drawing in solid works just to make sure I liked it in different angles and proportions. I will just redrill the frame to match the mounts.

[gotgas]

That is a sweet looking bumper!!!

[Elliott]

The 1 st pic below is what has me currently doing AutoCAD Donuts...
Obviously you have holes drilled in the support plates for something and
it must be something other than that particular year frame I would assume since there are no bolts in them. No matter...You did this...

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/swaybar002.jpg

The connection to the frame w/o using the weak OE bumper brackets is what I have been chewin' on. I am "attempting" to draw the front portion of the frame on my 79' J10 so when I do go to make a bumper I can easily draw these supports and have them cut via water jet. It is a b1tch... Here is what I have so far, I can "Plot" this 1:1 and then cut it out with sizzors and use a leather punch to punch the 3- .5" holes in the triangular pattern, insert bolts thru the frame then slip the paper cutout over the 3 bolts. SO I am taking the 1:1 cutout paper and lay it against the frame and much of this is DAM CLOSE, it is a work in progress, the 3 triangular holes I have nailed. I need to figure out how to measure back to the 2 threaded bolt holes that are OE on the frame L and R, then dim them X and Y in relation to the front 3- .5 holes and then connect the dots so to speak so I end up w/ 5 bolts holding EACH side ( Plus other things like a support between the triangular holes at the very front) It is HARD...:mad:

http://www.plumbers.cc/images/ebay/frame-start.jpg


I could just ship you a Warn frame bracket to get the measurements off of... ;)

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/jeeps/files/Users/Elliott/WarnBracketKit.JPG

I have an older, used Warn mount I could send, this is '78 down.

[COLOFIREMAN]

Very clean work!!! Great job.....so when are you going to start production??? ;) :rolleyes: :D

[Metal Twister]

Very clean work!!! Great job.....so when are you going to start production??? ;) :rolleyes: :D

NO, I dont think so. Too much quality competition already with a foot hold in that business. Now if your looking for a nice suspension seat we might hook you up. :thumbsup:

[Artisan]

NO, I dont think so. Too much quality competition already with a foot hold in that business. Now if your looking for a nice suspension seat we might hook you up. :thumbsup:


MT is there a link to see what your doing in the Susp. Seat arena?

[Metal Twister]

Still under wraps and in the field trial stages, but it wont be long now. We are making allot of changes to the old standard suspension seat designs. The Mastercraft seat design has been around ever since Robbie bought out the old Taylor Made seat business some 35 years ago. Since then there have been very few changes in suspension seat design. As a result there are allot of me too companys in the seat business that build almost identical products. Our's are very different...:eek: :cool: and the first market we are targeting is the jeep / SUV market. One of our options will be a speaker in the head rest so you can actually hear the C.B. if desired. But there I go again letting the cat out of the bag. :D I will post it up here as soon as we are ready to rock and roll. And thanks for asking, it wont be long... :thumbsup:

[aallison]

Still under wraps and in the field trial stages, but it wont be long now. We are making allot of changes to the old standard suspension seat designs. The Mastercraft seat design has been around ever since Robbie bought out the old Taylor Made seat business some 35 years ago. Since then there have been very few changes in suspension seat design. As a result there are allot of me too companys in the seat business that build almost identical products. Our's are very different...:eek: :cool: and the first market we are targeting is the jeep / SUV market. One of our options will be a speaker in the head rest so you can actually hear the C.B. if desired. But there I go again letting the cat out of the bag. :D I will post it up here as soon as we are ready to rock and roll. And thanks for asking, it wont be long... :thumbsup:

IF you need a test bed CJ, let me know. I'm looking for some seats:D

[Chief Gunner]

Still under wraps and in the field trial stages, but it wont be long now. We are making allot of changes to the old standard suspension seat designs. The Mastercraft seat design has been around ever since Robbie bought out the old Taylor Made seat business some 35 years ago. Since then there have been very few changes in suspension seat design. As a result there are allot of me too companys in the seat business that build almost identical products. Our's are very different...:eek: :cool: and the first market we are targeting is the jeep / SUV market. One of our options will be a speaker in the head rest so you can actually hear the C.B. if desired. But there I go again letting the cat out of the bag. :D I will post it up here as soon as we are ready to rock and roll. And thanks for asking, it wont be long... :thumbsup:



Sounds like I ned to stop by the shop and see whats under wraps. If your designing/building it, it has to be good. Good to see you back on the forum again by the way.

[Metal Twister]

Thanks Chief... :banghead: been busy twisting metal and threading needles. It feels good to come up for air, even if it is only for a day or two.:p

[moorehouse77]

That is the bumper i've been trying to design in my head for the last year. You nailed it! As others have said very very well done. I like the clearance on the ends as I am in San Diego also and have plowed factory bumpers through alot of desert dirt. Actually it looks like I work down the street from you off Kenwood. Maybe one of these days I'll stop by and see it in person if you wouldn't mind? Again good job.


Dave.

[mike12]

looken good:fsj:

[Metal Twister]

That is the bumper i've been trying to design in my head for the last year. You nailed it! As others have said very very well done. I like the clearance on the ends as I am in San Diego also and have plowed factory bumpers through alot of desert dirt. Actually it looks like I work down the street from you off Kenwood. Maybe one of these days I'll stop by and see it in person if you wouldn't mind? Again good job.


Dave.
The only FSJ down that direction that Ive seen is the white one with the brown trim going down the side in front of the Deering Banjo shop, next door to Bill Holland's bike shop. Is that yours?

[orangecherokee]

Nice design. The only concern I have is with the lights you used. I've noticed unless you have a softer suspension the vibration from the trail will eventually shake those lights to death. I've been through numerous pairs myself. I finally had to go with tractor lights.

[Metal Twister]

I dont know about the lights? Ive had them working on a TJ for years now with no issues? They are throw away cheap @ $15.00 per pair at Walmart.. I can afford a replacement from getting scrubbed off or a bulb burning out. Only time will tell? I will let you know if I have the same issues. Thanks for the info, I will be watching for short life issues now. :eek:

[moorehouse77]

The only FSJ down that direction that Ive seen is the white one with the brown trim going down the side in front of the Deering Banjo shop, next door to Bill Holland's bike shop. Is that yours?

Yep thats me. Small world huh?


Dave.

[billyrb]

Side by side I think they are different enough, dont you?:thumbsup:

No, I wasn't insinuating that they were a copy.....just a cooler version of a similar style bumper. I really like the looks of yours.

[Metal Twister]

Yep thats me. Small world huh?


Dave.

Im on the corner of Olive and Bancroft... Stop by anytime! :fsj:

[Metal Twister]

No, I wasn't insinuating that they were a copy.....just a cooler version of a similar style bumper. I really like the looks of yours.

Good, Good, it's all Gooooooood. :D

[Billygoat]

Realy nice bumper!!

Looking for those suspension seats too! I was thinking about trying to find a junkyard set from a comercial delivery truck, but they are not easy to find.

I am with you, I have a ME degree and access to several CAD softwares, and I usually just build stuff on the fly, I also usually don't know what materails I am going to use since I often just use what is laying around of can be scavenged...makes it even harder to draw.

[Metal Twister]

Finally finished mounting and hooking up the winch today. Its only an 8k winch but it should be fine for anything I will need. I didnt want the control box out where it could get smacked so l stuffed it behind the grill panel.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/swaybar016.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/swaybar017.jpg

[Heckofadeal]

That's just freakin Sweet!

[j2sax]

Is there a part number on that Warn Kit? Even if it is not currently available, it might make it easier to find in the aftermarket.

Metal, I like the smaller design as it reduces overhang. Great craftsmenship! Regardless, I might go with a "non-roller"fairlead as the roller look so huge, but that is personal taste.

Have a great week!

Thanks,

[Metal Twister]

Is there a part number on that Warn Kit? Even if it is not currently available, it might make it easier to find in the aftermarket.

The winch isnt a Warn, And its not a kit... ? But good call on the non-roller fairlead. I just threw this one on that came with the winch... I will have to get one of the non rollers and see how it looks. :thumbsup:

[j2sax]

Sorry for the confusion... I actually meant the Warn Bumper mounting kit mentioned earlier in the thread.

I am going with a poly rope on my winch as I do not hard mount it but have it on a receiver mount. That way I can use it on the fornt, back or even put on someone else's rig with a receiver when I need help! Only thing is with the metal line it weighs like 80 pounds! I can move it around, but losing about 20 pounds would be nice (of course, I could personally stand to lose about 80, but that's another subject!)

Have a great weekend,

Jesse

[Metal Twister]

I took some old KC light housings that looked pretty rough and had them powder coated the same as the bumper. I then put the Hid conversion kit inside the housing and mounded it. Exceptional lighting with the ole school look. All the lights work wonderfully. It literally lights up the desert. I'm totally happy with how everything has ended up with this bumper. Now on to the back!

Thanks guys for all the kind words and help with this bumper. Its fairly easy to build with a few good tools and a little patients. If you would like to use the design to build one for yourself feel free! If I'm around and can answer any questions for ya I will be more than happy to walk ya through it. :thumbsup:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/Boyersseatsandairridesystem048.jpg


ALL DONE!

[86gwrhino]

Wow that looks good:eek:

[HD_JEEP]

Finally finished mounting and hooking up the winch today. Its only an 8k winch but it should be fine for anything I will need. I didnt want the control box out where it could get smacked so l stuffed it behind the grill panel.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/swaybar016.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g23/metaltwister/74%20FSJ%20Jeep%20Cherokee/swaybar017.jpg

Now that's a clean install... :eek: tooooooo cool :cool:

[Eaglefreek]

How do you like the lights that are mounted in the bumpers? Are they driving or fogs? I didn't see any mention of brand. I recently built a winch bumper for my Eagle and want to incorporate some fogs in the bumper.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/svoman2300/photobucket-4227-1326157774335.jpg

[Metal Twister]

The little oval guys are just driving lights. They are Walmart $20.00 a pair and work just fine Because of the front angle of the bumper it shines the light forward and out along the edge and center of the road. I use them a lot and really like them. I think they sell a yellow lens with the same shape but not sure. Not much in the line of fog here in So Cal so I cant speak of first hand experience with that.

Some say the little lights are junk but Ive had them for sometime now and like them just fine. I was more interested in a cheap replacement so when I gouge these out on the rocks. ;) I give them a 10 out of 10 for effective and cost, Exactly what I wanted.

[Eaglefreek]

Thanks, damaging an expensive light mounted in the bumper is also a concern of mine.