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JNErotten
01-31-2002, 05:48 AM
Man, I can't figure it out. There is nothing wrong with my jeep!!! She runs perfectly, and ever since I changed my valve seals and did that water cleaning of the valves, it's been nothing but a joy to drive. It just seems wrong. I'm sure if I start planning a road trip something will happen. Maybe that will fix my problem of not fixing problems.

On a side note, that water down the carb trick rocks. My vacuum guage was very fluttery. I kept it hooked up, brought the rpm's up to 1600 (after already being warm) I filled a 20 oz coke bottle and just did little tablespoon pours down it. After about 8 ounces the neddle started to relax and now she stays on 20 perfect and still. My vacuum at idle was alittle under 15 and all over the place. Scepticle at first, but I'm glad I did it now. No, longer stalls in reverse or trying to tight menuevers. She can't wait to drive now.

porkchop
01-31-2002, 06:22 AM
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by JNErotten:
Man, I can't figure it out. There is nothing wrong with my jeep!!!<hr></blockquote>

You just jinx yourself now. :D :D

Glade to hear it is running ok. How hard was it to change the valve seals?

Jerk
01-31-2002, 06:38 AM
you can come work on my 81 cherokee if you REEEEEEAALLY want to work on broken Jeeps! :D

billyrb
01-31-2002, 06:40 AM
What is this water thing you are talking about? I know that for my mitsu eclipse there is a water injection kit that some of the guys are using, and rave about it.....don't know much about it, though....care to explain?

~ryan

JNErotten
01-31-2002, 07:20 AM
Porkchop, it wasn't hard but time consuming. I didn't have an air compresser so I had to use cord to fill the chamber so the valve wouldn't knock against the piston while tapping on the seals. The worst part about it was the stupid valve compresser. If you just tourque the bolt down as far as it goes on the pry-bar, you don't need to pry on it at all. It will fully compress it leading to my actions of just cuttin most of the **** bar off. In some spots, that bit-o-information is crucial unless you want to take your carb off. Once done, the smoking at start up that I always blamed on "condensation" stopped. I see new cars putting out more "condensation" then mine now LOL. If yours had been leaking as long as mine were, you'll prob want to do the water valve cleaning thing cause that oil and carbon mixed together can really get caked on there. Your lifters can only compenstae for so much, and it's def not a smooth surface so your preformance will suck. (gas will suck too

Billy, the water thing is basically like steam cleaning your valves and cylinders. Some use tranny fluid but A: I'm not trying to look like a masquito man fogging every one out. B: It didn't come close to working as good for me. Be careful how much you put in at a time. Water will not compress and those rings are meant for basically one way performance so it's much easier for water to go past them at 160 psi than oil can at 65 psi tops sustained. Last thing you want to do is have too much water in your crank and spin a bearing or something. Table spoon at a time. Warm your jeep, unhook your accel spring, and set it at about 1600 rpms. That keeps it from chokeing out as you put water in, and gets those valves running faster and a little hotter to smack that carbon off. Pour in a tblespoon, and it will die down a little. Wait for the rpms to catch back up, and give it another shot. I did 20 oz and it did the trick. no better sight then watching a wiley vacumm guage needle get tamed right before your eyes. I had to have a manment LOL

Gladi8r
01-31-2002, 07:36 AM
I know some guys that have rigged a hose from the window washer bottle(water only) to the air cleaner intake and give it a "shot" every now and then to keep things cleaned out :D :D It seems to work fine.

porkchop
01-31-2002, 08:32 AM
I am confused :confused: You did this while the heads were still on? And what do you need the air compressor for? I have one so can you explain to me how to do it using my compressor. Thanks. If you want you can send it private message.

andy d
01-31-2002, 08:55 AM
PC, you use a fitting that screws into the spark plug hole that has an airchuck on it the compressed air keeps the valves up when the keepers are released on the valve spring so you can remove them to replace valve seals. if you have a commpresser, you're set

JNErotten
01-31-2002, 10:09 AM
Yeah, it pretty much "keeps it up" so you don't bang the valve into the cylinder head and mess it up while your working and tapping the valve seals on. They are VERY tight goin on and have to be tapped a little. The rope I used insted just gave it a cushion between the cylinder and the valve.