more lift plz

[badscooter]

ok, i have a 65 j2000, i have the 4in hell creek lift on it already but want more lift, can yall give me some ideas on what i could do? i want as much as posible id love to be able to have some 38's on it if posible

thanks for the help

[Elliott]

For the rear you can flip the shackle down for another 4" then on the front just add lift blocks.... (j/k) On the front... I'm not sure... if you keep that axle. I swapped in a GM D60 up front and have the spring hangers under the frame which will require different springs up front so with stock later model springs you'd get 2 more inches over what you have now... could use late model 4" front springs to have 6" over what you have now and that should give you 12 total up front, leaving you needing to boost the rear more. Taking stock springs and putting them under the frame in the back gets you about 6"s. Or keep your springs/axle setup as is, build a body lift and run narrower 38's. Some will tell you to keep it like it is now and just cut the flares off to fit 38's.

[Chevelleguy]

Hey, I grew up in Spring. Graduated class of '87 from Spring High. Parents still live in Timberlane subdivision.

Just trim the fenders to fit 38's:D.

[badscooter]

the reason i dont wanna trim the fenders that much is cause it is a step side bed,


what if i do the shackle flip in the back and then in the front buy the 2in lift shackels and then do like a add a leaf kit or somethin like that, would that work?

[Stuka]

You cant do a shackle flip in back with lift springs on the post mount rigs. It moves the rear axle about 2" forward. So in order to get more lift in back, you pretty much need to redo the whole suspension, or add a 2" block. If you redo it, moving the springs under the frame will give you 3-4" over what you have now. For the front, you have to move to the later spring setup (under the frame mount).

However, if you want 38's, I hope you have another set of axles. Because those stockers barely hold up under stock sized tires.

[jepj2000]

:worthless:

But like said above, there really aren't too many options past what you have already. Maybe can you do a 3" body lift? I'm not a fan of body lifts but it is an option maybe.

I do agree with Stuka on having better axles as an upgrade to go with these big tires, there will be a lot of things to consider other than just bolting up 38" tires.

Rankin

[chuckchili]

I did the 4" lift springs and a 2" body lift on my 66 truck and it appeared to give me TONS of room to fit bigger tires. I had 33's on there in this picture to give you idea of what your truck should look like with an additional 2" from the body lift.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/chuckchili/craigslsit107.jpg

[badscooter]

ok guys thanks for the help, i think im goin to do the shackle flip in the back and move the springs under the frame maybe?

ill look into the body lift too, the only reason i dont really wanna go for that is because i dont like seeing the frame stickin out on the bottom,

i do have better axels for the 38s. a gm 12bolt and a d60 for the front

thanks again ill keep yall up to date

[jepj2000]

ok guys thanks for the help, i think im goin to do the shackle flip in the back and move the springs under the frame maybe?

ill look into the body lift too, the only reason i dont really wanna go for that is because i dont like seeing the frame stickin out on the bottom,

i do have better axels for the 38s. a gm 12bolt and a d60 for the front

thanks again ill keep yall up to date

I agree with you on the body lift. Also by swapping to modern front springs and moving them under the frame you will be able to bolt the D60 up to them.

Don't waste your time with a 12bolt rearend. That is a 6-lug semi-float axle and won't even match the 8-lug pattern the 60 has. You can pick up a full floater Corp. 14bolt for really cheap and it won't break!

Oh and you still need to post pics of your Jtruck!:thumbsup:

Rankin

[Elliott]

the reason i dont wanna trim the fenders that much is cause it is a step side bed,


what if i do the shackle flip in the back and then in the front buy the 2in lift shackels and then do like a add a leaf kit or somethin like that, would that work?

Post some pics of this!!!! Hey, just so ya know, the Kaiser didn't use any lift blocks under the Thriftside bed, but after '80 AMC added 3" blocks under the bed mounting points on the Sportside.

If you move those 4" springs under the frame in the back you'll have 10" of lift on a Corp 14 bolt (on my '65 I got a lil more than 6" of lift with stock late model J20 springs moved under the frame with stock shackles and a 14 bolt). You may want to sell those springs since they are short/stiff and go to late model springs up front and under the frame for 6" lift and then put '63 GM springs under the frame in the rear for ~6" lift then raise just the bed on blocks if you need it and add a 2" add a leaf up front if you need a lil more there. From there you can add some longer GM shackles for a lil more if needed.

[bowtieman55]

You cant do a shackle flip in back with lift springs on the post mount rigs.


according to JP, you can (easily)
http://www.jpmagazine.com/projectbuild/154_0906_project_1973_jeep_j20_pickup/index.html

[jepj2000]

according to JP, you can (easily)
http://www.jpmagazine.com/projectbuild/154_0906_project_1973_jeep_j20_pickup/index.html

As far as I understood that article, they run the lift springs up front and just did the shackle flip out back with stock rear springs, not shackle flip + lift springs.

Rankin

[wickedwagon767]

hopefully you meant 14-bolt rear end instead of the 12-bolt. The Dana60 front axle is setup for spring-over. You could find a set of stock leaf springs from a Wagoneer,mount them under the frame up front with stock mounts from a later-model FSJ and get about 6-7" of lift up front (2 more than you have now) then follow the rear by flipping the shackles as stated before. You could get some universal 1"body lift pucks from www.mountainoffroad.com (http://www.mountainoffroad.com) if you need an extra inch or so,but I think the 38's would fit fine once the suspension is done.

then you could sell the 4"lift hell creek front springs to recoup some of the cost

mounting the hell creek springs under the frame up front would give you a ton of lift. Probably way too much for 38's if they're mounted on top of the axle

[wickedwagon767]

:worthless:



lets see what your truck looks like now and go from there

[COLOFIREMAN]

Ok I just did the 4-inch Hellcreek swap on the front in this picture as well as it having a 3-inch body lift. In this picture I have 255x85x16 Swamper Truxs MT's, which is a 33x9.50.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd218/COLOJEEPGUY2K/mytruck.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd218/COLOJEEPGUY2K/mytruck2.jpg

As far as the shackle flip, it is as easy as they say it is. Un-bolt the rear shocks and jack up the rear all the way untill you have 4-inches under the tires. Then just push down on the tire with your foot. Then just use a pry bar to make it go over the break-over point.:thumbsup:


EDIT: This is my truck before the springs and only a 3-inch body lift.....
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd218/COLOJEEPGUY2K/flatbed2-1-1.jpg

[badscooter]

ok so i have a couple ideas of what ill do now thanks guys,

would it be posiple to do the shackle flip with the springs i have now and just get a huge amount of lift off of that?