Ready to paint have a question?

[blt2krl]

I have the jeep all sanded and ready to lay some paint down. What is a good solution to wipe the surface sown with before painting? I have some acetone will that be fine? any help would be helpful.

[gsmikie]

i allways use laquer thinner

[OBX-AUTOMOTIVE]

HOLD IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET ME ASK YOU THIS...YOU HAVE IT SANDED AND PRIMERED RIGHT!!!!!!!THE PRIMER IS SANDED RIGHT!!!! IT'S MASKED RIGHT!! IT'S READY TO SHOOT RIGHT!!! THIS IS WHAT YOU DON'T DO!!!!!!!!!! YOU DON'T USE THINNER,ACETONE,OR ANYTHING!!!!...NO TACK RAG!!!! THIS IS WHAT YOU WIPE IT DOWN WITH "WATER"....YOU TAKE A LINT FREE SHOP RAG....IT'S A PAPERTOWEL....BLUE IN COLOR...YOU KNOW THE KIND I'M TALKING ABOUT???... WELL, YOU WET IT THEN WIPE IT DOWN ...WITH A BLOWGUN AT THE SAMETIME...IT'LL TAKE ALL THE DIRT AND DUST OFF....YOU CAN'T USE THINNER OR ANY THING LIKE THAT...HELL... IT WILL REMOVE THE PRIMER......I'VE ONLY PAINTED TEN THOUSAND CARS THIS WAY!!!...

[OBX-AUTOMOTIVE]

LOOK I'M NOT BEING A SMART Great Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley Moogley...... OR A KNOW IT ALL!!! I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU smile.gif I DON'T WANT YOU TO SCREW THE PAINT JOB UP!!!! :cool:

[blt2krl]

Actually I have it just sanded and was wondering what to clean the surface with before laying down the olive drab military paint. Gemoxb no need to apologize I actually find your comments fun to read and quit full of info. I wasn't going to primer since I was using the ultra flat olive drab military paint. Do you think I really need to?

[OBX-AUTOMOTIVE]

IF YOU WOULD HAVE ANY BARE METAL.... ...YOU WOULD PRIMER IT...AND BEFORE YOU WOULD DO ANY SANDING,YOU WOULD WIPE IT DOWN WITH WAX AND GREASE REMOVER...YOU CAN WIPE IT DOWN WITH THAT IF YOU WANT TO...I MYSELF DON'T LIKE USING IT FOR A FINAL WIPE DOWN. ...I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE USE IT FOR THAT...YOU CAN WIPE IT DOWN WITH REDUCER ALSO,BUT NOT THINNER... smile.gif

[PhilSine]

A light rubdown with pure alcohol (not rubbing alcohol, it leaves a film) is what many pros use followed quickly by a dry tack cloth. Make sure you wet the rag and do not pour the alcohol directly on the primer as it will yield the results that GEMOBX mentioned. Do not rub hard if at all. Just gently wipe. Professional grade thinner will also work well. I would advise against the water and blowgun as the blowgun can inject particles into the primed surface and the water will not fully dissipate because the primer will absorb it a little bit. My father ran a body shop for a few years and the above techniques are the ones he taught me. They yield positive results every time. If you're going for a shiny finish (which I know you're not at this time), rub the last coat of paint down with a cloth diaper (the old fashioned kind). Also, always prime bare metal as it will rust through if you don't.

:eek: In order to paint 10000 cars, you would have to paint one full car a day every working day for 39.22 years. But, given the fact that one car, done at a professional shop, properly prepped, from bumper to bumber takes one person a minimum of 3 days (if he's real good), then it would take one person 117.66 years to do. The years is not a 365 day year but a 255 day year which accounts for weekends (extend the number by 5 days a year for holidays).

I know GEMOBX ;) , you just threw out a huge number to help prove that you have painted a few cars. But, I like to have fun with numbers and I really don't doubt your experience with painting cars but your method is the first I've ever heard of to be done that way. I've always known every painting environment to be as free from moisture as possible. Putting water on primer is news to me.

[gsmikie]

PhilSine........fun with numbers mmmmmm a man owened a feed and grain store and he had a rock that had a wt of 50lb so he could only sell feed and grain in 50 lb sacks one day a salesman dropped the rock and broke it into 7 parts from that day on he could sell feed and grain from 1 to 50 lbs what did each piece weight ????

[OBX-AUTOMOTIVE]

HELLO!!!! PAINT A CAR OR TRUCK COULD BE A DOOR AND QUARTER OR A FENDER... ....I LIKE YOUR MATH YOUR RIGHT!! YOU GOT ME....30 YEARS OF PAINTING AND BODY WORK....HELL I BET THAT I ONLY DID A FEW CARS LIKE YOU SAID... .. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[PhilSine]

If he had 6 rocks of the following weights he could sell sacks from 1 to 50. A seventh rock of 64 lbs could expand that to 127 lbs.

1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32

[jhatcher]

1,2,4,5,8,10,20 = 50

Joe

[jhatcher]

PhilSine,

You forgot that if a 50 lb rock breaks into 7 pieces the total weight must still be 50lbs. Your total weight is 63lbs smile.gif

Joe

[MuddyWag]

you said that he could sell 1-50 pounds. With this little bit of info all that we can conclude is that one of the rocks is 1 pound, the 50 pounds is a combonation of the 1pound piece and all of the others. This not too well thought-through riddle dosen't say what increments in that 1-50. it could be: 1,2,3,4,5,6, and 29lbs or it could be 1,3,5,7,9,11,14 or about 20 other combos. T ;) hat having been said jhatcher is correct.

[ June 24, 2002, 01:50 PM: Message edited by: MuddyWag ]

[billyrb]

wax and grease remover is good before the initial coat of primer...it is also good to wipe down with if your hands have come in contact with the primer before painting.....but, if you sanded properly, and you didn't touch the primer with your hands, you should do as GEMOBX suggested. Use water, and a lint-free cloth to wipe it down. Then take your time, and use compressed air to blow off/dry it. Then shoot er' with paint.

~ryan
(worked at a few p&b shops)

[blt2krl]

thanks for the help. I hope to have her all done this week. stay tuned for pics.

[PhilSine]

I was basing my answer on strict binary and forgot about the 50 lb cap. the last rock of 32 lbs could also have been 2 rocks, one of 9 lbs, the other of 10. That falls under the 50 lb cap and satisfies the number.

[gsmikie]

to all that answered you have just won a weekend at the sunny side up no tan line beach in mexico bring your sleeping bag and flip-flops and do battle with the shrimp and corvina

[Crazy_Jeepman]

yikes am I glad I do not paint my own. The math will kill ya!!!! :D :D

[64Trvlr]

Originally posted by GEMOBX/77/401:
I LIKE YOUR MATH YOUR RIGHT!! YOU GOT ME....30 YEARS OF PAINTING AND BODY WORK....HELL I BET THAT I ONLY DID A FEW CARS LIKE YOU SAID... HEY GARY, YOU CAN DO MY BODY AND PAINT WORK ANYTIME. I DON'T CARE IF YOU ONLY PAINTED 9999 CARS. THAT'S OK WITH ME....
:cool:

[OBX-AUTOMOTIVE]

64...I WOULD LIKE TO HELP YOU OUT!! BUT YOUR WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIGHT?? :D A LITTLE FAR FOR A HOUSE CALL!!! :rolleyes: :cool:

BIT2...GOOD LUCK ON THE PAINT JOB :cool:

[Highsteel]

After reading this thread I'm just gonna roll mine with latex and forget about it. tongue.gif

[Tad]

I'm just gonna roll mine with latex and forget about itAgreed, I'm too confused to figure out how we got to this point.

PhilSine, Please Read This, No Harm No Foul (http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=005579)

[Don S]

GEM.. Gary.. .This other painter and I painted 22 '53 ford pickups in one week. :D I couldn't do any Prep. the next week because of stuff leaking out of my hand :rolleyes: but I did do some paddle work.. What ever happened to the idea of wrapping chains on the axles and spreading them out to prevent static electric charges?? :confused: .. ..ds..

[Highsteel]

Hey Paul however the math turns out be sure to post some pics..WE NEED PICS...Good luck with it... :D

[OBX-AUTOMOTIVE]

DON!!! THIS TOPIC KEEPS ON TRUCKING. .....A FEW TIMES I DID THE CHAIN THING...THIS PAINTING AND BODYWORK STUFF,HAS SO MANY DIFFRENT STEPS...TO THE LAYMAN,IT CAN DRIVE THEM CRAZY!!! AND THE WAY I TRY TO EXPLAIN THINGS...WELL!!! IS NOT MUCH HELP!!!...A TEACHER I'M NOT...THEN YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE TELLING YOU SOMETHING DIFFRENT....ALL THE PEOPLE "BODYMEN" THAT I'VE WORKED WITH,HAD SHORT CUTS...SOME GOOD AND SOME BAD!!!!.... smile.gif