Lawn-Ranger
04-05-2009, 11:51 AM
I am in process of rebuilding my 1982 Wagoneer and cannot decide what drivetrain to install. Here are my three options:
* AMC 360 V8 with DIY TBI, a TC727 with a reverse pattern manual valve body and a NVG242 or NP208 transfercase.
* AMC 258 I6 with DIY TBI, a TC999 with a reverse pattern manual valve body and a NVG242 or NP208 transfercase.
* AMC 258 I6 with DIY TBI, a T17# 4-speed and a NVG242 or NP208 transfercase.
With these options in mind, here are my constraints:
1.) My current axle ratios are 2.73, the front axle has lockouts and I do not have time/money to regear this year.
2.) I own all the aforementioned components - the 82 Wag is an I6 and I also own an 87 GW that will be sacrificed. Through much research, I understand what it will take to install any of the various combinations.
3.) The 360 and 727 are in great shape, but the 258 and 999 would need to be rebuilt. The condition of the 4-speed is unknown.
4.) When finished the 82 will be my daily driver - 60 highway miles/per day at 55-60 mph. In their current state, the 360/727 combo with a rebuilt 2bbl Motorcraft gets 10 mpg on corn flavored gas. I do not have reliable numbers for either 258 combination.
5.) When finished, the 82 will need to pull a solid 14-15 mpg not to break my gas budget. If I choose the V8, I cannot finish with a 10 mpg truck.
6.) I plan to install a 2-3 inch lift and run 30 or 31 inch tires.
For what its worth, I have read every fuel economy thread I can find on this website, and this is what I have learned: The DIY TBI will not lead to an appreciable fuel economy increase on either engine. The 360 is capable of 13-14 with the standard 727, but can improve on that with regeared axles and an AW4 or 700R4 transmission. With this in mind, the AW4 could be a second year addition if the fuel economy improvement will justify the potential fuel cost savings. On the other hand, the 258 I6 is a known fuel miser capable of 16-20 mpg, but few people can stand the poor power performance when compared to the 360. What am I missing? If I need 15 mpg, is the 258 my only option? Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks.
* AMC 360 V8 with DIY TBI, a TC727 with a reverse pattern manual valve body and a NVG242 or NP208 transfercase.
* AMC 258 I6 with DIY TBI, a TC999 with a reverse pattern manual valve body and a NVG242 or NP208 transfercase.
* AMC 258 I6 with DIY TBI, a T17# 4-speed and a NVG242 or NP208 transfercase.
With these options in mind, here are my constraints:
1.) My current axle ratios are 2.73, the front axle has lockouts and I do not have time/money to regear this year.
2.) I own all the aforementioned components - the 82 Wag is an I6 and I also own an 87 GW that will be sacrificed. Through much research, I understand what it will take to install any of the various combinations.
3.) The 360 and 727 are in great shape, but the 258 and 999 would need to be rebuilt. The condition of the 4-speed is unknown.
4.) When finished the 82 will be my daily driver - 60 highway miles/per day at 55-60 mph. In their current state, the 360/727 combo with a rebuilt 2bbl Motorcraft gets 10 mpg on corn flavored gas. I do not have reliable numbers for either 258 combination.
5.) When finished, the 82 will need to pull a solid 14-15 mpg not to break my gas budget. If I choose the V8, I cannot finish with a 10 mpg truck.
6.) I plan to install a 2-3 inch lift and run 30 or 31 inch tires.
For what its worth, I have read every fuel economy thread I can find on this website, and this is what I have learned: The DIY TBI will not lead to an appreciable fuel economy increase on either engine. The 360 is capable of 13-14 with the standard 727, but can improve on that with regeared axles and an AW4 or 700R4 transmission. With this in mind, the AW4 could be a second year addition if the fuel economy improvement will justify the potential fuel cost savings. On the other hand, the 258 I6 is a known fuel miser capable of 16-20 mpg, but few people can stand the poor power performance when compared to the 360. What am I missing? If I need 15 mpg, is the 258 my only option? Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks.